Big Pharma and Lawsuits related to vaccines

[Guest ProudConservative]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. As Clint Eastwood says to William Munny in 'Unforgiven' "Deserve's got nothing to do with it".  Anyway, I *wish* they were just asking people who know the answers, but instead what they (and you) are doing is spreading falsehoods and misleading information -  not asking but telling.
2. Globalist shill ?  That's another one of those meaningless terms that the meme makers pass around... was Brian Mulroney a Globalist Shill ?  Margaret Thatcher ?
3. Why thank you.
4. Huh ?  What ?  Real conservatives should be, by now, petitioning the moderators to make you change your name here...

Also notable: YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.  Who is making the memes you spread around here ?  Where do they come from ?  Do you post them because you are unable to post your own thoughts ?  They sure don't qualify as 'sources'...

You see... You're full of crap, because you don't even bother to read the ingredients in the vaccines. All the ingredients listed in that graphic, is listed in the FDA approved vaccines.

Before you call me a liar, go read what's on the FDA's website. Now am I suppose to just trust the medical experts, just because they got some big fancy university degree?

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/common-ingredients-us-licensed-vaccines

Edited May 12, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Michael Hardner]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_News

It comes from Natural News.... this 'ProudConservative' is opposed to science and medicine.  Quite a mascot for conservative movement...

[Michael Hardner]

11 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

I'm not spreading falsehoods. I provided links to FDA.gov Go read what's in the vaccines, before you call me a liar.

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/thimerosal-and-vaccines

Your graphic came from Natural News - so, yes, you are lying....  Another terrible mascot for conservatism.  You need a purple dinosaur to cheer up the crowd guys... you can even make him say things against evolution if it helps... 

[Guest ProudConservative]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Your graphic came from Natural News - so, yes, you are lying....  Another terrible mascot for conservatism.  You need a purple dinosaur to cheer up the crowd guys... you can even make him say things against evolution if it helps... 

I don't care where the graphic comes from, if the information is correct. FDA has all those substances listed in their vaccines. By the way, almost everyone here will back me up, because they don't want poison put in their bodies.

Edited May 12, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, ProudConservative said:

I don't care where the graphic comes from, if the information is correct. FDA has all those substances listed in their vaccines.

None of this is endorsed by the FDA, so I have to trust you that this is all correct.

And guess what - I do NOT.   You like conspiracy theories and it's sad to me...

[Guest ProudConservative]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

None of this is endorsed by the FDA, so I have to trust you that this is all correct.

And guess what - I do NOT.   You like conspiracy theories and it's sad to me...

You're just a narcissistic clown. Seriously very few people care what your think. I certainly don't.

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, ProudConservative said:

You're just a narcissistic clown. Seriously very few people care what your think. I certainly don't.

And why should you ?  You have Natural News to inform you of all the scary world things... why trust a stranger on Maple Leaf Web when you can trust another stranger who makes money spreading health disinformation ?

You are well set up to live your life... albeit in a much shorter timeframe than mine... 

[Guest ProudConservative]

39 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

And why should you ?  You have Natural News to inform you of all the scary world things... why trust a stranger on Maple Leaf Web when you can trust another stranger who makes money spreading health disinformation ?

You are well set up to live your life... albeit in a much shorter timeframe than mine... 

I use to hate conspiracy theorists too, but when the government does shady shit, it just makes dealing with them a whole lot worse.

2 hours ago, Rue said:

The fear of vaccines was spread by people who heard there was aluminum and mercury in vaccines. These people did not go on to find out what amounts of these chemicals we are talking about and why they were or are used and how the body flushes them out.  People do not take the time to educate themselves about medication because we fear.

So now it becomes a question of if they only put a small amount in the vaccine it's ok? Please define a small amount because I heard Fentanyl the size of a spec of sand, is enough to kill 100 people. I don't care if their is 25 micro grams of Mercury in the flu vaccine. It's the most dangerous non-radioactive element. There shouldn't be Mercury in any vaccine! Even if it won't destroy my brain...I refuse to take it out of principle, just like I refuse to take aspartame.

If they want vaccine compliance, they need to remove all toxic adjuvants and emulsifiers from vaccines. It's unconstitutional to force people to take poison. So it's either remove your shit from the vaccines, or the old people can die from this pandemic... because i'm not taxing one toxic substance in the arm.

Edited May 12, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Right To Left]

56 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

And why should you ?  You have Natural News to inform you of all the scary world things... why trust a stranger on Maple Leaf Web when you can trust another stranger who makes money spreading health disinformation ?

You are well set up to live your life... albeit in a much shorter timeframe than mine... 

I haven't decided where I stand on this covid vaccine issue, so I'll leave to everyone else with instant opinions on both sides. 

My concerns would be that the experts who've been talking to the public so far are of the opinion that it will take 18 months to 2 years to develop a safe and effective vaccine. And that's assuming it's even possible! One researcher I recall stating that the AIDS pandemic unleashed the search for an HIV vaccine that was never fully developed or applied. Since the 80's, AIDS has been treated with antiviral and other drugs and campaigns to prevent the spread of the lethal/but much less contagious disease. Could the same thing happen with Covid-19?

The worst possible outcome would be Poindexter Gates or some other billionaire grifter sponsoring the lab that creates the covid vaccine...slaps a patent on it, and either charges 8 billion people for it directly or their governments to pay for it! 

The rest of the world...including Europe (and I hope Canada also) want international cooperation on this work to create a covid vaccine, while the US has already tipped their hand that they see this as just one more profit opportunity... Donald's White House attempting to work out a deal with a German pharma company to fund their work, but use the end product for America! 

[Guest ProudConservative]

15 minutes ago, Right To Left said:

I haven't decided where I stand on this covid vaccine issue, so I'll leave to everyone else with instant opinions on both sides. 

My concerns would be that the experts who've been talking to the public so far are of the opinion that it will take 18 months to 2 years to develop a safe and effective vaccine. And that's assuming it's even possible! One researcher I recall stating that the AIDS pandemic unleashed the search for an HIV vaccine that was never fully developed or applied. Since the 80's, AIDS has been treated with antiviral and other drugs and campaigns to prevent the spread of the lethal/but much less contagious disease. Could the same thing happen with Covid-19?

The worst possible outcome would be Poindexter Gates or some other billionaire grifter sponsoring the lab that creates the covid vaccine...slaps a patent on it, and either charges 8 billion people for it directly or their governments to pay for it! 

The rest of the world...including Europe (and I hope Canada also) want international cooperation on this work to create a covid vaccine, while the US has already tipped their hand that they see this as just one more profit opportunity... Donald's White House attempting to work out a deal with a German pharma company to fund their work, but use the end product for America! 

Here's where I stand. The cure can't be worse than the disease. Some old people might be fine with shutting down the economy, but they have already lived a full life. What about the graduates who can't find jobs, and will be up into their eyeballs in debt? Did the old people consider their rights to work, and self dignity... or do they only care about slowing down this virus as long as possible.

If they don't want to be exposed... They should be the ones quarantined. 

I'm starting to believe that the boomers are one of the most selfish generations in modern times, because they don't get a shit about the well-being of future generations. They will do whatever they can to maintain their cushy retirements, while the wealth of future generations gets destroyed. No ones ever heard of a 3 month shutdown. The longer it goes on, the more I begin to get suspicious.

Doug Ford just announced that Ontario is to remain closed until June the 2nd... While he calls people who are concerned about their jobs a bunch of Yahoos... I'm starting to regret voting for Ford.

Edited May 12, 2020 by ProudConservative

[taxme]

3 hours ago, Rue said:

Here I am.

Thank gawd indeed that you are here to disagree with me. I always enjoy making a fool of you and that NDS problem that you have had for most of your senseless life.  Just saying. 

[taxme]

10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I suspect that evolution will take care of the new strain of human who thinks that they're smarter than medical experts.

BTW you posted the disinformation meme graphic TWICE in the post.  Do you even know where it came from?  A naive person wouldn't answer, or wouldn't know...

Well, I certainly do hope that a new strain of a virus comes out very soon that will finally eliminate and knock off the many stunned trained seals out there who were led to believe that this China virus was for real and it would kill them if they did not listen and heed all the lies of our elite dear comrade leaders, and the lying media. All those fake frauds and lying medical experts like Fauci and Birx, and our very own Tammy(whom I believe may be a communist spy among us)Chief medical officer girl, who has been bought and sold by Bill "Gates of hell" pro vaccine pos, and she will say and do whatever Gates tells her to say or do. 

What evolution needs to do now is to wipe out the many trained seal dummies out there who believed all of this virus nonsense that walk this earth today. Gates has plans already for making hundreds of billions of money from those idiots who will take his vaccine shot. The vaccine shot won't do anything for them. All the vaccine will do is just inject chit into people's bodies. 

But the ones who really know that all of this is nothing more than a plandemic exercise of a hoax are our dear comrade leaders and the lying media. They now have been given the power and control and glory to run our daily lives, and who now have totally f'd up all of our lives and our lively hoods and the economy for nothing but a bunch of deep state globalist lies.

The only disinformation being pushed here is that this plandemic is all for real when in fact it has been one big farce of a hoax. Gates and many of our dear comrade leaders and the lying media already know that this has been one big farce that has been played on and believed by the fools who were put into a state of panic and fear by the likes of those I mentioned above. 

But I do hope that MH will be the first one in line to get his Gates vaccine shot. I am counting on him to be the first in line when the vaccine comes out. Don't let me down, MH. 

[taxme]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Everyone is allowed to have opinions.  Everyone is permitted to state them, with a few limits ... if I were to think of them.  But also some jobs require you to disclose relationships because of the perception that your objectivity in your job is impacted.  This is where we are with good boy Rex...
2. Ok.
3. Ok.
4. No.
5. No.
6. No.
7. Bingo - and that's why we need to burn the zombies who make these memes WITH FIRE.  Burn them.  With fire.  There are 'content farms' of offshore types who speak English really well producing good-looking graphics such as the one our naive cohort posted without question.  Always ask: Where did the meme come from ?  I have never meet a naif who could answer, but yet still would bleat "Sheeple ! Sheeple !  MSM".   

Here's another analogy: I knew someone who hung out with crack addicts.  One of them told her: "Smoking it off a pop can lid isn't healthy"... This is the meme-sucker talking about mainstream media IMO.

Hey teach, the word should have been "met" and not "meet". I am just paying you back with kindness for all of the times you have corercted me on my speling and my gramner.  

I do believe that the word sheeple is quite appropriate to use here as I have noted several times here that many members appear to be quite the sheeple themselves. Just saying, and avoiding mentioning any names.   

[taxme]

2 hours ago, ProudConservative said:

I don't care where the graphic comes from, if the information is correct. FDA has all those substances listed in their vaccines. By the way, almost everyone here will back me up, because they don't want poison put in their bodies.

Let him take the vaccine shot with all of the great ingredients in those vaccines for him to inject himself with. 

There are just some people who if one fired a bullet in the left ear, the bullet would come flying out the right ear and not hit anything along the way. 

[Guest ProudConservative]

30 minutes ago, taxme said:

Hey teach, the word should have been "met" and not "meet". I am just paying you back with kindness for all of the times you have corercted me on my speling and my gramner.  

I do believe that the word sheeple is quite appropriate to use here as I have noted several times here that many members appear to be quite the sheeple themselves. Just saying, and avoiding mentioning any names.   

So he's a retired teacher? Now it all makes sense. Teachers don't even realize that their the first ones to be programmed, since the the programmers need them to do the programming.

My Advice for Michael Harder. Don't put your blind trust in official organizations. There is such a thing a corruption. Just because the accredited experts provide information, doesn't mean they have the best intentions.

Edited May 12, 2020 by ProudConservative

[taxme]

9 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

So he's a retired teacher? Now it all makes sense. Teachers don't even realize that their the first ones to be programmed, since the the programmers need them to do the programming.

My Advice for Michael Harder. Don't put your blind trust in official organizations. There is such a thing a corruption. Just because the accredited experts provide information, doesn't mean they have the best intentions.

Only Lazy Sheep do that

Edward R. Murrow - "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves"

I only call him teach because he always use to correct me on some of my spelling errors that I have made from time to time. It was just payback time! If he is a retired teacher or not, I can agree with you that teachers are the first ones that are programmed to try and make young children become a bunch of politically correct little commie zombies. 

MH is to hard headed to want to take advice from anyone. I do believe that he does really think that he is gawds gift to mankind, oops sorry, I meant people kind. Chuckle. 

Plenty of lazy sheeple in Canada alright. The country is going to the dogs, but yet so far, most Canadians have not noticed that yet. They blithely go along and keep voting for the same old political leftist liberal crowd who keeps always trying to screw them day in and day out of their tax dollars and their freedoms. Our politicians are creating more lazy people every year. So sad indeed. 

[Guest ProudConservative]

33 minutes ago, taxme said:

I only call him teach because he always use to correct me on some of my spelling errors that I have made from time to time. It was just payback time! If he is a retired teacher or not, I can agree with you that teachers are the first ones that are programmed to try and make young children become a bunch of politically correct little commie zombies. 

MH is to hard headed to want to take advice from anyone. I do believe that he does really think that he is gawds gift to mankind, oops sorry, I meant people kind. Chuckle. 

Plenty of lazy sheeple in Canada alright. The country is going to the dogs, but yet so far, most Canadians have not noticed that yet. They blithely go along and keep voting for the same old political leftist liberal crowd who keeps always trying to screw them day in and day out of their tax dollars and their freedoms. Our politicians are creating more lazy people every year. So sad indeed. 

He seems like someone who came from the wonderful world of Academia.... but I got a feeling that he was a very powerful business person. The only thing that freaked me out, is when he admitted that he volunteers for the Illuminati. Anyways, they all have the mindset, that they're the choose few, and the rest of us need to be educated.

Edited May 12, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Right To Left]

22 hours ago, ProudConservative said:

Here's where I stand. The cure can't be worse than the disease. Some old people might be fine with shutting down the economy, but they have already lived a full life. What about the graduates who can't find jobs, and will be up into their eyeballs in debt? Did the old people consider their rights to work, and self dignity... or do they only care about slowing down this virus as long as possible.

If they don't want to be exposed... They should be the ones quarantined. 

I'm starting to believe that the boomers are one of the most selfish generations in modern times, because they don't get a shit about the well-being of future generations. They will do whatever they can to maintain their cushy retirements, while the wealth of future generations gets destroyed. No ones ever heard of a 3 month shutdown. The longer it goes on, the more I begin to get suspicious.

Doug Ford just announced that Ontario is to remain closed until June the 2nd... While he calls people who are concerned about their jobs a bunch of Yahoos... I'm starting to regret voting for Ford.

Why do I never see concern for younger generations when the subject is the poisoning of our environment or the increased risk of nuclear annihilation over the last 10 or 15 years?

One thing for sure, Doug Ford isn't Rob Ford! I would say that's a good thing that he's not more Trump-like ..... a spoiled, self-centered baby acting on impulse. Certainly Dougie is no genius, and in many ways is a lot like Justin. But, dealing with the worst worldwide disease pandemic in a hundred years, politicians should err on the side of caution. Because, now that medicine almost never is in the public interest/but instead is just another for profit-multibillion dollar industry, scientists...including those workiing on vaccines, can be little more than spokesmodels for whatever company they're working for. The last thing we need is a sought after vaccine being rushed on the market before any lasting, longterm health effects have been studied.

[taxme]

26 minutes ago, Right To Left said:

Why do I never see concern for younger generations when the subject is the poisoning of our environment or the increased risk of nuclear annihilation over the last 10 or 15 years?

One thing for sure, Doug Ford isn't Rob Ford! I would say that's a good thing that he's not more Trump-like ..... a spoiled, self-centered baby acting on impulse. Certainly Dougie is no genius, and in many ways is a lot like Justin. But, dealing with the worst worldwide disease pandemic in a hundred years, politicians should err on the side of caution. Because, now that medicine almost never is in the public interest/but instead is just another for profit-multibillion dollar industry, scientists...including those workiing on vaccines, can be little more than spokesmodels for whatever company they're working for. The last thing we need is a sought after vaccine being rushed on the market before any lasting, longterm health effects have been studied.

The world had SARS come around several years ago. But yet, there has been no vaccine found for SARS yet. And guess what? There are billions of people still around. I could careless if they ever come up with a vaccine for this hoax of a China virus. The world will still go on and billions of people will still be alive. 

What I fear the most is that our dear comrade leaders, with the help of the lying media, will try to keep this hoax going right into fall where, voila, the China virus is back and it is now worse than ever. Our politicians are enjoying this plandemic because they now have the power and the glory to make or break our lives. They now get to tell us all how to live. Our bully politicians have no right to deny we the people our rights to our freedom of speech or freedom of assembly. This China virus lock down and social engineering will have caused more havoc and mayhem on everybody's life than what this fake China virus could ever do to we the people.

Hundreds of millions of people are now suffering from job losses, the economy is falling down, and apparently this virus is now causing many family problems. We the people are not allowed to get out there and mix and mingle with the crowd anymore. We must all stay away 6 feet from one another, and we may never be allowed to live the life we once lived and enjoyed, thanks to our dear comrade leaders. If we the people keep putting up with this bull chit then we deserve to lose our freedoms. I say enough already. Let's get back to normal, and dam the consequences. Do we want to get back to normal or do we want to live the life that we are living today which could last for a long time yet if our dear leaders keep getting their way. it's up to us to say no more, and let's all say that we all want to get back to normal. Works for me. 

[Rue]

On 5/12/2020 at 6:57 PM, ProudConservative said:

The only thing that freaked me out, is when he admitted that he volunteers for the Illuminati. Anyways, they all have the mindset, that they're the choose few, and the rest of us need to be educated.

Why would you two presume anyone wants you to be educated? Lol. Get a room. 

 

[Guest ProudConservative]

1 minute ago, Rue said:

Why would you two presume anyone wants you to be educated? Lol. Get a room. 

 

Hey, Just because I think Taxme is brilliant, doesn't mean I swing that way

[Guest ProudConservative]

4 hours ago, taxme said:

Hundreds of millions of people are now suffering from job losses, the economy is falling down, and apparently this virus is now causing many family problems. We the people are not allowed to get out there and mix and mingle with the crowd anymore. We must all stay away 6 feet from one another, and we may never be allowed to live the life we once lived and enjoyed, thanks to our dear comrade leaders. If we the people keep putting up with this bull chit then we deserve to lose our freedoms. I say enough already. Let's get back to normal, and dam the consequences. Do we want to get back to normal or do we want to live the life that we are living today which could last for a long time yet if our dear leaders keep getting their way. it's up to us to say no more, and let's all say that we all want to get back to normal. Works for me. 

When will the rest of these idiots realize that the cure can't be worse than the disease?

Edited May 14, 2020 by ProudConservative