Argus Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 To-day in Canada you can be thrown in jail if you leave Canada. Yes, it is illegal to leave Canada - unless your destination is somewhere that is acceptable to the current government. Your cite is about British girls going to Syria, and as such has absolutely zilch to do with whether Canadians can or cannot leave this country. I am thus quite puzzled, as I often am, as I'm sure others are, by your strange choice of subject matter and the lack of any reasonable basis for your concerns. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 What's a tin foil hat? Is this like those paper dresses from the 60's? Why are you making a comment that is fashion related? Can you actually articulate what is meant by your comment? Being ever the helpful sort, I will assist you in your confusion. I believe he was suggesting the idea was nuts, crazy, insane, and that the individual who made it was of a similar psychological state. I have often considered the likelihood of similar wardrobes for people who make nutty claims, such as, just for example, people who claim that China and Russia are wonderful places which respect human rights more than Canada does. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
-TSS- Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 In Denmark the Danish citizens who return after having fought for ISIS are locked up and prosecuted for treason ( I think it is needless to explain who these "Danish citizens" are) when as in Finland our MP's express their worry for reintegrating the poor lost souls returning from the horrors of war and are eager to promote their reintegration into society and are asking about who is going to pay for the possible needed treatment caused by the war. Which approach do you prefer? Quote
guyser Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Which approach do you prefer?When in doubt...get both. Works everytime. When they get home, they are tried and found guilty/not guilty. If they are imprisoned, then they should be treated in order to change them for when they will have to be released. Quote
WWWTT Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Do you like parading around as an idiot? You tell me since it's tattoed on your forehead little buddy. Oh what happened to your China, passport blah blah blah reference? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Being ever the helpful sort, I will assist you in your confusion. I believe he was suggesting the idea was nuts, crazy, insane, and that the individual who made it was of a similar psychological state. I have often considered the likelihood of similar wardrobes for people who make nutty claims, such as, just for example, people who claim that China and Russia are wonderful places which respect human rights more than Canada does. Hey Argus are you also scriblett? That's who I was asking, not you! I see you like to carry around an impression that you have like some kind of security blanket as well. Real confident there hey little buddy. Well, at least you're not afraid to go outside. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Big Guy Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Okay I now understand the solution; When we get a group or people who want to leave Canada, we ask them to form a straight line facing us. Then we tell them, "Anyone intending to join a terrorist organization who is fighting Canada please take one step forward". Then we detain all those folks who stepped forward for further questioning and allow the others to go on their way! Hey, that should work! If we cannot identify Canadian citizens who have gone abroad, have fought on behalf of an organization which we consider to be terrorist, and flag them when they try to enter Canada then forget any laws. Now you may argue that we have a dossier on certain people who should not be allowed to leave because we know of their views. So we refuse them exit. We might end up with some guy taking a car and slamming into and killing a member of our military. Or some other guy who we refuse exit to take a rifle and take out a member of our forces guarding a monument in Ottawa and then trying to take out members of parliament. But that could never happen so we just keep these folks who want out of this country from exiting and let them start blasting folks here. Easy Solution! Why did I not think of that? Edited March 14, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 When in doubt...get both. Works everytime. When they get home, they are tried and found guilty/not guilty. If they are imprisoned, then they should be treated in order to change them for when they will have to be released. If you knew someone was going to Thailand to engage in sex with children would you still let him go and then hope to arrest him on his return? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Easy Solution! Why did I not think of that? Cuz it's stupid? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WWWTT Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Easy Solution! Why did I not think of that? Once again, nailed it hard! But don't underestimate the shallow short term memories of some posters on this site that will have completely forgotten how the government adds laws that circumvent the charter and deny what is an actual right. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Hey Argus are you also scriblett? That's who I was asking, not you! Then you ought to have PMd him. You see, the way a public forum works is if you pose a question anyone can choose to answer you - or not. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WWWTT Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Cuz it's stupid? LOL! Classic denial! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Then you ought to have PMd him. You see, the way a public forum works is if you pose a question anyone can choose to answer you - or not. LOL! Oh really? Ok go ahead and answer what a "tin foil hat means" WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Signals.Cpl Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Guess you forgot about the Khader fiasco? WWWTT What is your point exactly? Guess you forgot to have any point in your post... Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
Signals.Cpl Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Okay I now understand the solution; When we get a group or people who want to leave Canada, we ask them to form a straight line facing us. Then we tell them, "Anyone intending to join a terrorist organization who is fighting Canada please take one step forward". Then we detain all those folks who stepped forward for further questioning and allow the others to go on their way! Hey, that should work! If we cannot identify Canadian citizens who have gone abroad, have fought on behalf of an organization which we consider to be terrorist, and flag them when they try to enter Canada then forget any laws. What does it matter if we flag them? RCMP does not have the resources to give the attention every returning terrorist needs in order to make sure that they did not return in order to commit acts of terror… What happens to those who go overseas to fight for Canada's enemies and end up getting hurt, do we foot the bill for their healthcare? If suddenly they change their mind and want out do we have to facilitate their rescue? If they run afoul of ISIS do we risk SOF to save them? What happens if they engage Canadians? If you support prosecuting shote who return from service with ISIS for treason, why not support the effort from preventing those individuals from going there in the first place? Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
WWWTT Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 What is your point exactly? Guess you forgot to have any point in your post... What's the matter? Thought I would glance over how you believe there's a boogieman under every rock and hiding in every shadow? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Signals.Cpl Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 What's the matter? Thought I would glance over how you believe there's a boogieman under every rock and hiding in every shadow? WWWTT If you want I can use smaller words just for you… If you have comprehension issues please say so and we can go from there. Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
Keepitsimple Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) To Keepitsimple - Please reread my post. I suggest that we have no right to keep somebody from leaving Canada - for whatever reason. You do not have to have permission to leave. We do have the right to keep someone out of Canada. Any Canadian who does anything from mischief to murder can have their passport revoked and refused entry into Canada. They lose the right to their citizenship. If they insist on coming "back" then they are charged with treason and dealt with accordingly. Nothing in your original post says that......it was simply a rant against Harper and how he was stifling democracy. Funny thing is - your approach is in tune with many Canadians - let them all go over there and get themselves killed and if they come back, put them in jail for life for treason. Yet somehow....I think if the Conservatives had even suggested something like that, you would have tarred and feathered them. But in all seriousness - your approach attempts to close the barn after the cows are out. The people we are attempting to stop are those who would kill allies and fellow Muslims alike - people with children and families. As a civilized country, we owe it to ourselves and others that when we have information that would lead us to believe such happenings - we should try to stop it. Apparently, you prefer to just let things happen - more killings, more atrocities. You're entitled to your opinion but I think if you reflect on the consequences of it, you might want to be persuaded to change your mind. Edited March 14, 2015 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 LOL! Oh really? Ok go ahead and answer what a "tin foil hat means" WWWTT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WWWTT Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 If you want I can use smaller words just for you… If you have comprehension issues please say so and we can go from there. No actually you're going the wrong way in articulating how you feel that people visiting the ME are going to return and be a threat to our safety. Stay afraid military guy, stay very afraid! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat Oh sort of like what Magneto wears from the Marvel comics X-MEN. Sounds like you're right into that stuff. Well enjoy your comic books little buddy. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Yet somehow....I think if the Conservatives had even suggested something like that, you would have tarred and feathered them. In other words, maybe if the conservatives did this, then YOU would have said that! I love how the pundits spin what others "Might Have Said" If you're so good at predictions, how about you actually predict the lottery numbers? Oh ya that's right, BS doesn't work in real predictions. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Signals.Cpl Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 No actually you're going the wrong way in articulating how you feel that people visiting the ME are going to return and be a threat to our safety. Stay afraid military guy, stay very afraid! WWWTT PLease for the love of god don't join in on conversations you don't understand. If you don't understand, just stay in your very narrow lane... Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
Keepitsimple Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 In other words, maybe if the conservatives did this, then YOU would have said that! I love how the pundits spin what others "Might Have Said" If you're so good at predictions, how about you actually predict the lottery numbers? Oh ya that's right, BS doesn't work in real predictions. WWWTT How about engaging in a proper debate by offering some substance - instead of being a Johnny-come-lately - cherry-picking one sentence, providing absolutely no context, and launching some angry, meaningless rant. Quote Back to Basics
-TSS- Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 In Denmark the Danish citizens who return after having fought for ISIS are locked up and prosecuted for treason ( I think it is needless to explain who these "Danish citizens" are) when as in Finland our MP's express their worry for reintegrating the poor lost souls returning from the horrors of war and are eager to promote their reintegration into society and are asking about who is going to pay for the possible needed treatment caused by the war. Which approach do you prefer? I'm certain that nowhere else politicians are as naive and gullible as in Finland, especially the left-wing politicians. Naivety and gullibility can be very harmful when dealing with very dangerous people. But we have to look in the mirror; it's us ourselves who have elected those silly muppets to decision-making positions. I think life has been too fluffy for too long for too many people. The sense of real world disappears. Quote
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