Another Trudeau Gaffe

[Boges]

public at large would care? If the public doesn't care... why do Harper Conservatives run those purposeful misinforming attack ads, non-stop! Again, another degree of your rationalization - refer to the purposeful misinformation as "gaffes"!

I'd suggest you're in the minority in not considering them as gaffes. Anyone can rationalize anything can't they? It's the CPC's fault that JT keeps saying dumb shit.

Even Iggy didn't give so much fuel.

Edited August 18, 2015 by Boges

[Keepitsimple]

there's no "mysterious qualifier"... it's been provided before in an analysis of that purposeful Harper Conservative attack ad, sleazy, one-liner, out-of-context misinformation. Speaking of you being quite the apologist for Harper Conservative sleaze!

The only "analysis" is by apologists like yourself. As I said, economic growth is only half the equation - the revenue side. The discipline comes on the spending side - and with Justin joined at the hip with Kathleen Wynne, the budget clearly won't be "balancing itself". It's a silly, naive statement to make for someone who wants his grasp of the economy to be treated seriously.

[waldo]

I'd suggest you're in the minority in not considering them as gaffes. Anyone can rationalize anything can't they? It's the CPC's fault that JT keeps saying dumb shit.

Even Iggy didn't give so much fuel.

has Trudeau misspoke? Of course... he even speaks of it in a self-deprecating way! But there's a difference between genuine foot-in-mouth "gaffes" and purposeful misinformation tactics deployed by Harper Conservatives/CPC. You don't care... you simply don't care... while you hypocritically speak of ethics and run the gamut of excuses in your so-called rationalization of dirty sleaze tactics!

[Boges]

has Trudeau misspoke? Of course... he even speaks of it in a self-deprecating way! But there's a difference between genuine foot-in-mouth "gaffes" and purposeful misinformation tactics deployed by Harper Conservatives/CPC. You don't care... you simply don't care... while you hypocritically speak of ethics and run the gamut of excuses in your so-called rationalization of dirty sleaze tactics!

This thread is highlighting those Foot-in-mouth gaffes and you're de-railing it. It's easy to make hay about that stuff. Don't like it, then petition for political advertising to be banned.

How much hay was made from Harper saying "You won't recognize Canada when I'm done with it"? I'm sure all analysis of that statement was from the Liberals was used with full appreciation of what Harper meant when he said it.

Also we can't really attack the substance of JT's plans for Canada because he still has no tangible platform yet.

Edited August 18, 2015 by Boges

[waldo]

The only "analysis" is by apologists like yourself. As I said, economic growth is only half the equation - the revenue side. The discipline comes on the spending side - and with Justin joined at the hip with Kathleen Wynne, the budget clearly won't be "balancing itself". It's a silly, naive statement to make for someone who wants his grasp of the economy to be treated seriously.

ya ya, JTs not an economist... like Harper! The only apologia is yours - for both the myth of Harper Conservative fiscal conservatism as well as your own rationalization for dirty sleazeball attack ad purposeful Harper Conservative misinforming tactics.

[waldo]

This thread is highlighting those Foot-in-mouth gaffes

is it? Like I said... you prefer to label purposeful Harper Conservative/CPC one-liner, out-of-context, misinformation as "gaffes"! Anyone with intellectual honesty would recognize them for what they truly are! This thread, as you say, has clearly highlighted your failed rationalizations and questionable... ethics and honesty.

[Keepitsimple]

ya ya, JTs not an economist... like Harper! The only apologia is yours - for both the myth of Harper Conservative fiscal conservatism as well as your own rationalization for dirty sleazeball attack ad purposeful Harper Conservative misinforming tactics.

Waldo - only love can bring out such defensive passion! You're in love with JT. Oh my!

[Boges]

is it? Like I said... you prefer to label purposeful Harper Conservative/CPC one-liner, out-of-context, misinformation as "gaffes"! Anyone with intellectual honesty would recognize them for what they truly are! This thread, as you say, has clearly highlighted your failed rationalizations and questionable... ethics and honesty.

Please highlight where, in this thread, that any JT Gaffe was accompanied by "Harper Conservative/CPC one-liner, out-of-context, misinformation". I suspect inline with forum rules that all topics were accompanied with cites from independent media sources. I know that's how I roll.

So nice try.

Edited August 18, 2015 by Boges

[BubberMiley]

Waldo - only love can bring out such defensive passion! You're in love with JT. Oh my!

You should try to concede without being such a poor-sport.

[PIK]

This thread is highlighting those Foot-in-mouth gaffes and you're de-railing it. It's easy to make hay about that stuff. Don't like it, then petition for political advertising to be banned.

How much hay was made from Harper saying "You won't recognize Canada when I'm done with it"? I'm sure all analysis of that statement was from the Liberals was used with full appreciation of what Harper meant when he said it.

Also we can't really attack the substance of JT's plans for Canada because he still has no tangible platform yet.

When and where did he say that? And one thing is for sure, nobody recognized canada after trudeau sr was done with it.

[PIK]

Waldo - only love can bring out such defensive passion! You're in love with JT. Oh my!

Waldo must be on the government teet somehow ,by the way he defends these people. And I bet he vote for Wynne.

[waldo]

Waldo - only love can bring out such defensive passion! You're in love with JT. Oh my!

I quit referring to your simpleton ways... don't make me....

[PIK]

I quit referring to your simpleton ways... don't make me..

You are the one with the JT boner.

[waldo]

I suspect inline with forum rules that all topics were accompanied with cites from independent media sources. I know that's how I roll.

but that's the point... of purposeful misinformation! To have it covered/carried by media sources, independent or otherwise! So the latest rationalization you trot out is... wait for it... "the media is covering it, so no problemo"! I couldn't write your stuff if I tried... keep it comin' Boges... keep it comin'!

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[Boges]

but that's the point... of purposeful misinformation! To have it covered/carried by media sources, independent or otherwise! So the latest rationalization you trot out is... wait for it... "the media is covering it, so no problemo"! I couldn't write your stuff if I tried... keep it comin' Boges... keep it comin'!

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Oh so the Globe and Mail article I used in the OP for a JT statement about Muslims (which ironically is about JT taking a CPC policy out of context) is all part of a CPC conspiracy. Gotcha!

Edited August 18, 2015 by Boges

[waldo]

Waldo must be on the government teet

You are the one with the JT boner.

teets and boners, oh my, PIK! I can't complete with that... you have my unconditional surrender!

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[socialist]

A candidate for the heart warming and tolerant Liberals made some nasty tweets. I will have to tune in to the National tonight.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2171816/go-blow-your-brains-out-calgary-liberal-candidate-apologizes-for-offensive-tweets/

[Boges]

A candidate for the heart warming and tolerant Liberals made some nasty tweets. I will have to tune in to the National tonight.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2171816/go-blow-your-brains-out-calgary-liberal-candidate-apologizes-for-offensive-tweets/

Global is clearly in cahoots with the CPC and the media report doesn't have proper context.

Also you need to provide proper context when highlighting that a person accused someone of being a waste of sperm. Clearly these attacks are improper political practices and full of CPC misinformation.

Edited August 18, 2015 by Boges

[socialist]

Global is clearly in cahoots with the CPC and the media report doesn't have proper context.

Yep...it's all about context. Maybe the waldo knows her true context.

[PIK]

It would be nice to have one news outlet in our corner. The CBC is going all out to save it ass. It knows if harper wins again, the CBC is going to see some changes.

[waldo]

Global is clearly in cahoots with the CPC and the media report doesn't have proper context.

Also you need to provide proper context when highlighting that a person accused someone of being a waste of sperm. Clearly these attacks are improper political practices and full of CPC misinformation.

and now you rationalize your acceptance of dirty, sleazy Harper Conservative purposeful misinformation by resorting to this? Where's the lacking context and misinformation in the reference you're speaking to? You can't even fabricate your nonsense without stumbling!

[waldo]

It would be nice to have one news outlet in our corner. The CBC is going all out to save it ass. It knows if harper wins again, the CBC is going to see some changes.

***liberal media*** squawk ***liberal media" squawk

[PIK]

You nailed it waldo. The CBC must be shaking in their boots at a harper win.

[Boges]

and now you rationalize your acceptance of dirty, sleazy Harper Conservative purposeful misinformation by resorting to this? Where's the lacking context and misinformation in the reference you're speaking to? You can't even fabricate your nonsense without stumbling!

Did you not say the media is part of the "purposeful misinformation" that the CPC uses in regards to JT?

but that's the point... of purposeful misinformation! To have it covered/carried by media sources, independent or otherwise!

In this thread we're all using media reports to highlight Trudeau gaffes. They must be in cahoots with the PMO.

Edited August 18, 2015 by Boges

[Argus]

I can't help that you find JT... pretty! As I said, if you were honest with yourself, the best you could do is squeeze out 15 years from that embellished resume of Harper's and attribute it to "working in politics".

Torturous desperation noted.

I do find it rather convenient for you to include the initial MP years for Harper... while completely dismissing those of JT (7 years... along with party leadership), to summarily characterize experience as "2 years of teaching". Notwithstanding JT had his own early gopher years around Liberal candidates starting in the early 2000s... and I understand he grew up in a political household... something about his father! Harperites sure want to belittle that last name as simply a ready-opener for JT... but never want to consider what that last name actually meant in terms of growing up... around that last name! Is this you being... honest with yourself?

Then again, I ignored Harper's time as leader of the new Conservative Party, too. Otherwise that would have brought him up to 21 years at all levels of politics. If you want to throw in Trudeau's time as MP, okay, but I do largely discount it because 1) he did nothing of note as Liberal MP and was not and still is not known to have contributed any strategies or policies, and 2) was given the job and the leadership because of his name and hair. There's nothing about him which justifies him being leader aside from that. He's not known to have any particular insight into politics, and in fact, is better known for saying dumb things and making impulsive gestures.