Big Guy Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) It appears that people can plan an act whose intent is to instil terror in Canadians but they are not terrorists and not involved in terrorism; http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/halifax-plot-would-have-been-devastating-but-no-terror-link-mackay-1.2236313 Here we have a few rationale(?) individuals who plan to kill innocent civilians in Halifax but we are assured that they are not terrorists - not like that guy who ran the soldier over or shot the soldier in Ottawa and got into the parliament buildings. I guess it is up to our government to decide, according to the Conservative agenda, just what is a terrorist act and what is not. I guess if some soldier had been one of those killed in the planned Halifax attack then it would be a terrorist act - or would it? Edited February 14, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Smallc Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 There's no political motive. Kind of blows a whole in the theory that the Harper Government calls every mass attack terrorism. Quote
Big Guy Posted February 14, 2015 Author Report Posted February 14, 2015 Then why call one act a "terrorist" act and another a "non-terrorist" act. Can you please explain to me the difference between the two? The reason that I suggest that it follows an agenda is the latest legislation has been labelled as "Anti-terrorist" legislation. The term has been used so often that it no longer has a distinct meaning. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Wilber Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 The article said this was not based culture or ideology. There has to be some criteria otherwise every violent crime could be called a terrorist act. This had no objective other than the crime itself. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
On Guard for Thee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 This is due to the left muddying the waters, which is what they intend to do. Put out enough disinformation to try and control the public opinion. This incident was deemed not terrorism by the police. Dot know what that has to do with the left muddying the waters. But I wouldnt be surprised if there isnt someone in Ottawa groping about to try and find some, any, kind of terrorist angle. Quote
Smallc Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Then why call one act a "terrorist" act and another a "non-terrorist" act. Can you please explain to me the difference between the two? The reason that I suggest that it follows an agenda is the latest legislation has been labelled as "Anti-terrorist" legislation. The term has been used so often that it no longer has a distinct meaning. You could start by reading the definition of the word: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism Quote
jacee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 There's no political motive. You don't know that. Motive has not been established yet. . Quote
Smallc Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 You don't know that. Motive has not been established yet. . There doesn't appear to be any. This could very well become terrorism, but usually, that comes to light quite quickly. It's generally the point of the whole thing. Quote
jacee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 This incident was deemed not terrorism by the police. Dot know what that has to do with the left muddying the waters. But I wouldnt be surprised if there isnt someone in Ottawa groping about to try and find some, any, kind of terrorist angle.No they only do that when the people involved purport to be Muslim.Got it now? Quote
Argus Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 No they only do that when the people involved purport to be Muslim. Got it now? I think we all, except the truly dumb, know what terrorism means. I really don't understand the desperate need of the left to keep Muslim terrorism from being labelled as terrorism. It is the act which is abhorrent, not the label slapped upon it. In this case, the act, or intent is as abhorrent with or without that label. The agenda or motivation of an act is and has always been the deciding factor in whether the act is labelled terrorism, or not. Maybe this was some kind of Nietzchkean thing "life is meaningless, and we hate everything and we hate our society and people are mean to us'" which we've seen on before, on occasion. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Terrorism isn't solely related to Islam it's just that the most terrorism incidents around the world today are done by Islamic people. It's rare that we hear about anything other than Islamic terror. Yeah according to the FBI that Islamic terror takes up about 6% of terror related crime in the US. Quote
Argus Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Yeah according to the FBI that Islamic terror takes up about 6% of terror related crime in the US. Why do you feel the need to lie and make excuses for Muslim terrorism? Edited February 14, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Why do you feel the need to lie and make excuses for Muslim terrorism? Why do you make such an unfounded comment. Quote
Argus Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Why do you make such an unfounded comment. Well, because you were lying about Muslim terrorism, for one... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Well, because you were lying about Muslim terrorism, for one... And how would that be. Quote
jacee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Yeah according to the FBI that Islamic terror takes up about 6% of terror related crime in the US.That's good info.What's the rest? Do you have a link for that? . Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Im talking about around the world. When we hear about terrorism it's almost always a Muslim. If all you listen to is the news cycle, especially some of those right wing ones such as the one that just went belly up here in Canada, you might get that impression. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDAQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loonwatch.com%2F2010%2F01%2Fterrorism-in-europe%2F&ei=SLPfVJiTCMi4oQT_qoDABw&usg=AFQjCNEuYrDhJQGy3VjK_6dNUGzd5IIklA&sig2=pQ3ihW-qRP_nzXvEqgnivw Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) I haven't heard of any other groups bombing things, beheading people en masse, attacking cartoonists though....have you? Do you have a count of the number of people killed in this fashion? Here are a few great facts from OGFT's articles posted above: Honestly, when is the last time we heard the media refer to those who attack abortion clinics as “Christian terrorists,” even though these attacks occur at one of every five reproductive health-care facilities? That doesn’t sell as well. After all we are a so-called Christian nation, so that would require us to look at the enemy within our country, and that makes many uncomfortable. Or worse, it makes them change the channel. An FBI study looking at terrorism committed on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 found that 94 percent of the terror attacks were committed by non-Muslims. In actuality, 42 percent of terror attacks were carried out by Latino-related groups, followed by 24 percent perpetrated by extreme left-wing actors. Mainstream media plays up on muslim terrorism stories simply to sell ad space Im talking about around the world. When we hear about terrorism it's almost always a Muslim. If you want to find out the reasons you hear that terrorism is almost always a muslim, read the above links. Edited February 14, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Keepitsimple Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Yeah according to the FBI that Islamic terror takes up about 6% of terror related crime in the US. These are the kinds of statements that require a cite/link. Sounds dubious but I like to see facts. Got any? Quote Back to Basics
WestCoastRunner Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 These are the kinds of statements that require a cite/link. Sounds dubious but I like to see facts. Got any? See above. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 I haven't heard of any other groups bombing things, beheading people en masse, attacking cartoonists though....have you? The vast majority of attacks by Muslims, occur in Muslim countries, and kill or injure Muslim people. The hype on the 6 oclock news is not a good reason to get out a big broad anti-Islamic paint brush. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 These are the kinds of statements that require a cite/link. Sounds dubious but I like to see facts. Got any? Open your eyes. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 You still have not proven that other groups are bombing embassies and carrying out suicide bombings or beheading people or attacking cartoonists. If Latinos are doing these things I'm unaware of it. Not sure what your point is here? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Point is I've never heard of a Latino terrorist act. What are these acts? Why are they not reported if they're so rampant? You didn't read the articles did you? It's all about selling ad space and getting elected. People are more fascinated by muslim terrorist acts, not christian terrorist attacks, not latino terrorist attacks, not accidental gun deaths, not violence towards women and separatist terrorist attacks. It's all about muslim terrorists these days. Haven't you figured that out yet? Edited February 14, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
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