Taxpayers billed $10,000 to Wipe McGuinty's Computers

[guyser]

Give yourself a shake.

I did, it felt good !

Using a private source outside the authorized government IT personnel - and the spouse of the Deputy Chief of Staff to boot.....is not what all politico's do. It's corruption - to cover up more corruption.

And yet....in the interview on 1010 Talk the woman IT pr said she has ben hired by almost every Muni, City and the Feds to wipe clean computers after they leave office.

They all do it.

[Ash74]

I think it is likely that Dalton did know but his staf will never admit it. He likely suspected or gave a subtle hint. The people that did give the order will never admit He knew so here we are.

End of the day the Ontario Liberals spent 1.1 billion on cancelling two gas plants to buy seats in that election. 1.1 billion that could have gone to health care, education, tax cuts, debt,etc,etc but no it was spent on buying an election.

The irony is that if Dalton had lost the election he would have been remembered with a better legacy than the one he will be remembered for.

[Scotty]

I think it is likely that Dalton did know but his staf will never admit it. He likely suspected or gave a subtle hint. The people that did give the order will never admit He knew so here we are.

End of the day the Ontario Liberals spent 1.1 billion on cancelling two gas plants to buy seats in that election. 1.1 billion that could have gone to health care, education, tax cuts, debt,etc,etc but no it was spent on buying an election.

The irony is that if Dalton had lost the election he would have been remembered with a better legacy than the one he will be remembered for.

Such as? Higher deficits and debt? More expensive electricity? Close to the most expensive public servants on the planet? Hundred thousand dollar cops?

[jacee]

I did, it felt good !

And yet....in the interview on 1010 Talk the woman IT pr said she has ben hired by almost every Muni, City and the Feds to wipe clean computers after they leave office.

They all do it.

True, but there are rules about what must be kept. That would be staff responsibility though.

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[poochy]

In keeping with the season "The audacity! The unmitigated gall!"

Edited December 25, 2014 by poochy

[Ash74]

Such as? Higher deficits and debt? More expensive electricity? Close to the most expensive public servants on the planet? Hundred thousand dollar cops?

Please don't mistake my opinions towards The Ontario Liberal Party. I despise the way they have run this province into the ground and continue to do so.

The Conservatives let us down by not replacing Hudak after the first time he lost to McGuinty. We all have 3 and a half years to deal with this bunch.

I really feel sorry for the next government that takes over cause it is going to take a Mike Harris on steroids to get things under control

[Keepitsimple]

Please don't mistake my opinions towards The Ontario Liberal Party. I despise the way they have run this province into the ground and continue to do so.

The Conservatives let us down by not replacing Hudak after the first time he lost to McGuinty. We all have 3 and a half years to deal with this bunch.

I really feel sorry for the next government that takes over cause it is going to take a Mike Harris on steroids to get things under control

My feelings exactly.......

[drummindiver]

Liberals win a majority after all the lies,cheating, and stealing...........

http://www.noliberals.ca/html/others.html

[guyser]

Yup, those COnservatives were even worse. Amazing isn't it?

[PIK]

Don't blame hudak blame the people that voted for the liberals. Everything hudak said about cutting jobs, is happening right now as we speak.

[drummindiver]

I don't blame Hudak. I blame the ppl of Ontario.

Yup, those COnservatives were even worse. Amazing isn't it?

Please, how have the provincial Conservatives been worse than the Libs?

[guyser]

Don't blame hudak

Ok...I blame the advisor who advised him then.

Or Hudak, I guess he didnt have to listen to him and could have gone off script and won.

The advisor...Hudak...hmmmm

[guyser]

Please, how have the provincial Conservatives been worse than the Libs?

Oh thats easy, the PC's had a win sitting in their lap , and then they stood up and whooops....they dropped the win and lost, soundly and convincingly.

[PIK]

Because the voter is stupid guyser. Look at tory, the voter freak over a few million for faith based schools. That would have been better then the billions lost since that election. We could be on the way to recovery right now instead of a downward spiral for another 4 yrs.

[guyser]

Because the voter is stupid guyser.

Some are some arent.

Whats really stupid is how the PC's hgad a wide open net and all they had to do was pay attention and push it in. But nope, they tripped over their own feet and lost.

Look at tory, the voter freak over a few million for faith based schools. That would have been better then the billions lost since that election. We could be on the way to recovery right now instead of a downward spiral for another 4 yrs.

Tory made a monumental mistake, and he lost.

We'll be ok, indicators are suggesting we are climbing out of the rut. Liberal govt or not.

[drummindiver]

Oh thats easy, the PC's had a win sitting in their lap , and then they stood up and whooops....they dropped the win and lost, soundly and convincingly.

So, again, you have no valid points as to how the Cons are worse than the Libs.

Some are some arent.

Whats really stupid is how the PC's hgad a wide open net and all they had to do was pay attention and push it in. But nope, they tripped over their own feet and lost.

Tory made a monumental mistake, and he lost.

We'll be ok, indicators are suggesting we are climbing out of the rut. Liberal govt or not.

Really? Again? ,

You really are a broken record about this aren't you? No valid points. Again.

[guyser]

So, again, you have no valid points as to how the Cons are worse than the Libs.

Oh I see, you havent a clue about elections and platforms and all that.

Well ok.....lets walk thru it, I will be brief

In late summer the writ was dropped, and that meant we were to have an election soon.

The Liberals had scandal upon scandal and should have been a cakewalk for the other relevant party the PC's to win.

Then the platforms came out, one of them (guess who) included a monumentally stupid position to get rid of a 100 thou civil servants /public workers. That next sound was the same party going "ow ow ow...I just shot myself in the foot!"

Then the people voted and the PC's who should have been a shoe-in were not only defeated but resoundingly so.

And that is how the PCs were worse than the Liberals .

Not hard to figure out.......for most people that is.

[drummindiver]

Oh I see, you havent a clue about elections and platforms and all that.

Well ok.....lets walk thru it, I will be brief

In late summer the writ was dropped, and that meant we were to have an election soon.

The Liberals had scandal upon scandal and should have been a cakewalk for the other relevant party the PC's to win.

Then the platforms came out, one of them (guess who) included a monumentally stupid position to get rid of a 100 thou civil servants /public workers. That next sound was the same party going "ow ow ow...I just shot myself in the foot!"

Then the people voted and the PC's who should have been a shoe-in were not only defeated but resoundingly so.

And that is how the PCs were worse than the Liberals .

Not hard to figure out.......for most people that is.

lol. Sorry, I assumed ppl posting on a political forum, even those of opposing views, would have something intelligent to add. Never assume I guess.

[Ash74]

lol. Sorry, I assumed ppl posting on a political forum, even those of opposing views, would have something intelligent to add. Never assume I guess.

I don't disagree. The PC's ran a terrible campaign. Hudak did not come across as sincere and he made the mistake of telling the truth to the voters.

That is a huge no no in Ontario. The P.C.'s lost the election and the people of Ontario just lost..

[Bob Macadoo]

I don't disagree. The PC's ran a terrible campaign. Hudak did not come across as sincere and he made the mistake of telling the truth to the voters.

That is a huge no no in Ontario. The P.C.'s lost the election and the people of Ontario just lost..

His mistake wasn't that he told the truth.....that was what people wanted to hear (See Rob "Stop the Gravy Train" Ford)...his mistake was he tried a stupid slogan "The public unions are to blame.... so I'll fix 'em good."

He stated a short-term goal that was 1) economically absurd which pissed off the budget-hawks and 2) divisive among non-union empathetic folks who saw it for what it was.....abusive rhetoric....and turned their back on it.

Edited January 1, 2015 by Bob Macadoo

[Keepitsimple]

His mistake wasn't that he told the truth.....that was what people wanted to hear (See Rob "Stop the Gravy Train" Ford)...his mistake was he tried a stupid slogan "The public unions are to blame.... so I'll fix 'em good."

He stated a short-term goal that was 1) economically absurd which pissed off the budget-hawks and 2) divisive among non-union empathetic folks who saw it for what it was.....abusive rhetoric....and turned their back on it.

Hudak was stupid....period. He had a non-caring edge to him. He was blathering on about cutting 100,000 jobs.......instead of saying that the Liberals had bloated government by adding 300,000 people to the payroll - but that reducing that back to a reasonable number has a consequence - because every job has a face - and a family. That's why we "have to do it smartly - by attrition.....by providing people with options - by having a plan....blah, blah, blah. He didn't have to throw out that stupid number......nor did he have to throw out that other number - the million jobs. The man was stupid and now we're all paying for it - literally.

[Bob Macadoo]

Hudak was stupid....period. He had a non-caring edge to him. He was blathering on about cutting 100,000 jobs.......instead of saying that the Liberals had bloated government by adding 300,000 people to the payroll - but that reducing that back to a reasonable number has a consequence - because every job has a face - and a family. That's why we "have to do it smartly - by attrition.....by providing people with options - by having a plan....blah, blah, blah. He didn't have to throw out that stupid number......nor did he have to throw out that other number - the million jobs. The man was stupid and now we're all paying for it - literally.

That sums it up nicely....except for the notion we wouldn't be paying for it either way......maybe more cancellation costs....we certainly wouldn't be paying less. Hudak misread the collective angst.....he should've focussed on gov't record than threatening people.....but I'm sure his handlers told him the rabble can't understand ORNGE malfeasance but they sure can hate Sunshine list faces making 20k$ in overtime they can't. Misread.