Michael Hardner Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 If by achieving their goals you mean insisting on less work for more money, then you have made a very true representation. Debating motivation leads nowhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 But that is my point about the duration Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty AC Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 The actual stress that a teacher may feel has to relate to being in front of her class. The actual teaching aspect is the most enjoyable, least stressful part of the job. The endless meetings, programs, paper work and special differentiation strategy implementations for low or advanced kids or students with special needs and behaviour or economic issues wears on you. I think the stress comes from having to keep so many balls in the air at one time. I also have an ownership stake in a small IT company. I still meet new clients, pitch projects, manage a team, handle client and tech issues, write proposals and specs, design software and actually develop. Between the meetings, deadlines and management issues there is quite a bit to keep straight. Yet, the organization and juggling aspect pales in comparison to what is required by teachers. This was my biggest surprise when I transitioned into education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pct2017 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 No... as I pointed out there was an exploration made on the other thread wherein we looked at these numbers.Go read the other thread and get back to me. So, having read the back and forth on the previous thread, I have no idea why you would sanctimoniously state that everyone agreed that teachers only work two weeks less per year than everyone else. First, you presented stats for the general working population that included part time workers and proceeded to compare those to full time teachers only. Then you tried to define a teacher's workday as 8 hours, implying that the 7.6 hours of overtime that they put in on average was above and beyond 8 hours. You did finally admit that for a teacher, overtime starts at 6.5 hours, but you did not adjust your numbers to reflect this. In reading what you and Moonbox wrote, I believe that it is very clear that teachers do work on average about 15 - 20% less than the general Canadian work force. I believe that number would skyrocket if you were to reduce the general population to white collar professionals only. OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 No, that is not how it went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Having to present, though, and to be "on" all the time would take a lot of energy. Correct, Michael. Teachers have to be "ON" all day. We can't take a minute off. The general public doesn't realize the many roles we play every day. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/102668066480537363/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Correct, Michael. Teachers have to be "ON" all day. We can't take a minute off. The general public doesn't realize the many roles we play every day. You wouldn't survive my job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty AC Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 You wouldn't survive my job. What is your job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) What is your job? I run a business that can do as much as $10000 in business a day....sometimes more. Before that, I worked as an educational assistant, a substitute teacher, a respite social worker, an early childhood educator, and a workplace safety and health inspector. I'm also the fire chief of a department that gets between 10 and 20 calls a year (no one else wanted the job). I manage a rescue crew, an engine crew, and a tanker crew. By far, the business is the most stressful and all consuming. Edited January 29, 2015 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I run a business that can do as much as $10000 in business a day....sometimes more. That sounds very lucrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I don;t think anybody who spends as much time as we do here has a very stressful job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I don;t think anybody who spends as much time as we do here has a very stressful job That's the nice part about owning your own business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 You wouldn't survive my job. Not only would I survive, but I would tell you your job is a piece of cake. I don't think you understand what teachers have to deal with this day and age. You are simply uninformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 I was a substitute teacher up until 2010, and an educational assistant before that. I was also an ECE and worked in foster care. I may just have some idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusThermopyle Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 I was a substitute teacher up until 2010, and an educational assistant before that. I was also an ECE and worked in foster care. I may just have some idea. Sorry, Socialist said you don't, so therefore you don't. What I find interesting is the way he ignores anything that shows him to be nothing more than a simple prat. I posted an example of occupational stress that exceeds anything a teacher deals with by a large margin and he just ignored it. That tells me all I need to know about him. Why even try to discuss anything with him when he simply disregards anything that doesn't suit his agenda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Not only would I survive, but I would tell you your job is a piece of cake. I don't think you understand what teachers have to deal with this day and age. You are simply uninformed. Let us say that you are indeed a teacher. Do you just make a random statement and ignore all the questions from your students afterwords like you do here? Is this "21st Century Learning" at its finest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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