Ash74 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) If Ontarians had only elected Tim Hudak as premier, you would have 1 MILLION new jobs today. Yes Hudak (must be a hard rule to follow when discussing G.W. LOL) doomed us to four more years of the Liberals. Terrible election strategy He should have never been leader of the P.C. party Edited December 18, 2014 by Ash74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Hey Ash - just FYI calling politicians names isn't allowed on here either, even derogatory nicknames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 People still elected them like Sheeple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) The "Ontario Pension Plan" was conceived as a two pronged political ploy: 1) to distract from the LIberals' complete and utter financial incompetence, if not corruption 2) a stick to beat the federal government and till the earth for their Liberal cousins in the federal election Unfortunately for Wynne, the Auditor General has thrown a grenade into the mix, exposing what sane individuals already knew.......and if Trudeau partners with Wynne in Ontario, he'll be tarred with the same Tax, Spend and Debt ideology that Wynne has made infamous. In reality though, the Federal Conservatives will address improving the CPP - when the time is right.....not when everyone's fighting to keep their heads above water. Edited December 11, 2014 by Keepitsimple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Macadoo Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 I see, so you're saying she isn't smart enough to grasp the intricate web of deceit and lies involved in scamming Ontarian's. I thought I was pretty clear about that point......of course in politics its called serving special interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Macadoo Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Turns out the auditor may be more qualified than Chiarelli. http://www.torontosun.com/2014/12/10/wynne-government-stoops-to-new-lows She worked for Manitoba hydro for ten years. She was executive assistant to CEO. Would she have access to the gov't balance sheet shenanigans in that role? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusThermopyle Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 I thought I was pretty clear about that point......of course in politics its called serving special interests. Okay then, just wanted a little clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 She was executive assistant to CEO. Would she have access to the gov't balance sheet shenanigans in that role? Don't know what the rating is there, but the executive assistant in CRA (as opposed to administrative assistant) would be in on everything an executive does, and would speak in his or her name, keep close watch on what was happening with every file, run meetings, prod managers who were late with reports or budgets, and generally run roughshod over everyone lower than that executive if they were of a mind to. This is a pretty high level position within the federal government, and the higher the executive, the higher level the EA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) She was executive assistant to CEO. Would she have access to the gov't balance sheet shenanigans in that role? Seems it would give her a better grasp on operations than the Minister. The Minister is a lawyer and a politician. http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/12/11/matt-gurney-ontario-liberals-blow-another-billion-but-hey-lifes-complicated-right/ Was it not the chief of staff and executive assistants that purged the computers for the last premier while he claimed no knowledge of it. Edited December 12, 2014 by Ash74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Seems it would give her a better grasp on operations than the Minister. The Minister is a lawyer and a politician. In other words, a congenital liar with no trace of morals, ethics or values... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Macadoo Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 In other words, a congenital liar with no trace of morals, ethics or values... Now now.....there's a trace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Now now.....there's a trace... So your right she is unqualified if that trace is remaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Smart meters are a stupid idea. A billion over budget? Taxpayers get the shaft again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Smart meters are a stupid idea. A billion over budget? Taxpayers get the shaft again. The beginning of the smart meters you could save money. We just started doing our laundry at night. Than blitz it on the weekends. Now it really does not matter. The latest claim it was never meant to cut costs is just yet another game the Liberals have played on the people of this province again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Macadoo Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 The beginning of the smart meters you could save money. We just started doing our laundry at night. Than blitz it on the weekends. Now it really does not matter. The latest claim it was never meant to cut costs is just yet another game the Liberals have played on the people of this province again It was never meant to save money for you, it was to decrease import costs for the IESO and prevent even further increases. So just like the gov't says a lessened funding to a program is still an increase, a lessened cost to a program is a saving.......morals, scruples and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 It was never meant to save money for you, it was to decrease import costs for the IESO and prevent even further increases. So just like the gov't says a lessened funding to a program is still an increase, a lessened cost to a program is a saving.......morals, scruples and all that. That's not what they told us, is it? Crooks. Billions down the drain. Wasted. Again and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 It was never meant to save money for you, it was to decrease import costs for the IESO and prevent even further increases. And even at that it failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Macadoo Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 And even at that it failed. No it worked....then became uneeded once energy intensive industry shutdown. If it comes back, especially if we stay at .75 US, we'll really need it with Pickering nuke plants shutting down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 No it worked....then became uneeded once energy intensive industry shutdown. If it comes back, especially if we stay at .75 US, we'll really need it with Pickering nuke plants shutting down. How are smart meters going to have an impact on industry use? The point of the smart meters was to allow individuals to reschedule their energy intensive activities to lower priced times so the peak periods wouldn't be quite so bad but the prices mean there's really no point to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Smart meters are just yet another failure that can be added to the list for the Ontario Liberal Party. I have little doubt MARS and the pension plan will be on there soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Macadoo Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 How are smart meters going to have an impact on industry use? The point of the smart meters was ... so the peak periods wouldn't be quite so bad ... They were to incentivize you to shave the peaks... so industry could rock on without importing power...now the peaks are bunny slopes...so long incentives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 It is a failed policy that is being kept alive fo the sake of politics. We are now paying the producers NOT to create more power so we do not have to sell it at a loss to Quebec or the States. But we keep building more windmills. At some point it stops being incompetence and starts becoming criminal. The Liberals won a majority. I would love to know how many that voted for them would have done so if they knew it would lead to a majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Oh and the day they run away for a nice break till February our noble Liberal government drops another bag of flaming @$#& on our door step in the form of the Pan-Am games. Expenses and budgets have blown threw the roof for the fine friends of your local Liberal MPP. http://www.torontosun.com/2014/12/13/one-boondoggle-after-another-at-queens-park But get ready cause a carbon tax is next. Tax hikes are how the Liberals celebrate a election win. That and blaming somebody else for why there is a tax hike. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/bc-premier-clark-extolls-the-virtues-of-a-carbon-tax-during-ontario-visit/article21999231/ Of course it will all be Stephen Harper's fault for not paying them enough in transfer payments despite the 1.25 billion increase. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ontario-to-receive-125-billion-increase-in-federal-transfers/article22083506/ That is enough to NOT build another gas plant with enough change to loan the MARS program another couple million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Macadoo Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 imestamp="1418687640"]It is a failed policy that is being kept alive fo the sake of politics.Yes we keep piling onto the failed policy of the Harris/Eves era. No balls to say it was wrong and tear it downWe are now paying the producers NOT to create more power so we do not have to sell it at a loss to Quebec or the States.That was the gamble made and failed. Locking into contracts with private entities in an "open" market, which you hold the public management accountable for. If it didn't cost me and I wasn't selfish I would love the market float free and watch the price you'd actually pay and see what you think then.At some point it stops being incompetence and starts becoming criminal.You say tomato.....I say its Politics 101....never undue your predecessor....just blame it and pile more crap onto it hoping it'll work itself out without a spit of knowledge if it will happen. See any gov't "scandal" and that's what you'll find.....no criminals, just cowards and incompetents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) Yes we keep piling onto the failed policy of the Harris/Eves era. No balls to say it was wrong and tear it down So that makes it ok than. Eves,Harris,Rea,Petteron,etc,etc screwed it up so we should just drink the kool aid and grab our ankles. Edited December 16, 2014 by Ash74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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