Big Guy Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 So we have another video coming out of the Middle East directed at Canadian youth. It is another slick PR move by ISIS to entice more Canadians to come and join their fight. http://www.cbc.ca/news/john-mcguire-isis-video-is-silly-say-radicalization-experts-1.2864260 This comes out just before more legislation allowing law and security enforcement more power to keep young Canadians (or any Canadians) from leaving Canada to get involved in battles in foreign lands - and join the bad guys. Why? Why are we keeping these folks from going to join a battle in which they choose to participate? Yes, find out who they are and make sure they do not get back in if they had fought on the side of the bad guys. I believe we should let them go and wave goodbye. If they want to die for their cause then let them do it. I believe that two of the last Canadian "terrorists" who ended up killing military people in Canada were denied their desire to leave Canada. If we would have let them go those two Canadian soldiers would still be alive. The last nation to keep people from leaving their nation was East Germany - not a government that we should emulate. The other difficulty I see is who makes the decision if the side they join are the good guys or the bad guys? If they go to Israel and join the JDL or join their relatives in Gaza does that make a difference? What if they go to the Ukraine and fight for Kiev or fight for the rebels in the East does that make a difference? What if they go and join one of the various groups in Iraq - with the Iraqi army, with ISIS, with the Kurds fighting Assad, with the Kurds fighting Turkey, with the rebels fighting Assad, etc ... does that make a difference? I say let the radicalized go, temporarily revoke their citizenship and track them if/when they survive and want back in. Then see which side they were on and make the decision. By the time they want back in the good guys may have become the bad guys and vice versa. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Moonbox Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Why? Why are we keeping these folks from going to join a battle in which they choose to participate? First, we're doing it to protect foreign partners in the world. A Canadian blowing up a bunch of people in Turkey or something would be bad news. Second, letting them go essentially gives the enemies we're fighting more reach/manpower. Third, allowing our citizens to fight for our enemies is a propaganda win for them. Lastly, the concern is that once these people leave they'll come back to be even more of a danger to us than they otherwise would have been. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
eyeball Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Well, considering some of the scumbags Ottawa rolls with in the world, I'd say it's a little late in the day to be getting all pissy over who we let ordinary Canadians hang with. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Michael Hardner Posted December 10, 2014 Report Posted December 10, 2014 I realize that even one incident is horrible, however we don't have much power to stop it from happening. A weakness of our open society is that feeble-minded outsiders will be preyed upon. It's happened before with cults and the like, and now this. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
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