bush_cheney2004 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Posted August 5, 2014 No it's not.....there are conflicts around the globe with far more civilian deaths but Israel always gets top billing 'round here. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
dre Posted August 5, 2014 Report Posted August 5, 2014 No it's not.....there are conflicts around the globe with far more civilian deaths but Israel always gets top billing 'round here. <facepalm/> Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
jbg Posted August 5, 2014 Author Report Posted August 5, 2014 <facepalm/>You're facepalming an awful lot today. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dre Posted August 5, 2014 Report Posted August 5, 2014 You're facepalming an awful lot today. Yeah theres lots of really silly stuff on here lately. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
The_Squid Posted August 5, 2014 Report Posted August 5, 2014 No it's not.....there are conflicts around the globe with far more civilian deaths but Israel always gets top billing 'round here. Start a thread... instead of complaining that the other members started threads about the wrong topics... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Posted August 5, 2014 Start a thread... instead of complaining that the other members started threads about the wrong topics... Way off the mark...as usual. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
dre Posted August 5, 2014 Report Posted August 5, 2014 Israel always gets top billing 'round here. Thats mostly because left and right wing ideologs have made conflict: dirtfarm, part of their idiotic little culture war. Arguing on the internet about those idiots killing each other has become a favoriate passtime. Just the same sports fans reading the same lines from their junior liberal/conservative handbooks ad-nauseum. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Bonam Posted August 5, 2014 Report Posted August 5, 2014 Why aren't you starting threads about Russia? or North Korea? Cause other than the rabid critics of Israel, most people have better things to do than start thread after thread after thread criticizing foreign countries? When a new major event happens somewhere, usually some reasonable member will post a thread about it, and discussion will mostly reside in that thread. On the other hand, when yet another skirmish occurs in Gaza, certain members will spam thread after thread about it. Quote
jbg Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) Why aren't you starting these threads? Are you not a member of this forum?Who started this thread?Why aren't you starting threads about Russia? or North Korea?Stop acting as if you've been hard done by somehow because everyone is against Israel and not Russia or N. Korea. It's laughable. Not for want of trying. Go here, regarding Polish and Russian hypocrisy (link to thread). Or this one about hypocrisy concerning Russia's seizure of the Kurile Islands (link). Those were two of mine. Why so many others on Israel? And for that matter why should Israel have to tolerate Gazan rocketry or tunneling? Edited August 6, 2014 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dre Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Not for want of trying. Go here, regarding Polish and Russian hypocrisy (link to thread). Or this one about hypocrisy concerning Russia's seizure of the Kurile Islands (link). Those were two of mine. Why so many others on Israel? And for that matter why should Israel have to tolerate Gazan rocketry or tunneling? <facepalm/> Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
The_Squid Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Not for want of trying. Go here, regarding Polish and Russian hypocrisy (link to thread). Or this one about hypocrisy concerning Russia's seizure of the Kurile Islands (link). Those were two of mine. Why so many others on Israel? And for that matter why should Israel have to tolerate Gazan rocketry or tunneling? Both of those threads that you started were about comparisons to Israel. I don think it's other posters with a one track mind........ Quote
jbg Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Posted August 6, 2014 Both of those threads that you started were about comparisons to Israel. I don think it's other posters with a one track mind........ Everyone can see things their own way. I see it as an attempt to focus on other oppressions. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Black Dog Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Everyone can see things their own way. I see it as an attempt to focus on other oppressions. I'm not sure what's a sadder prospect: that you think we're dumb enough to buy that or that you're actually dumb enough to believe that yourself. Quote
jbg Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Posted August 6, 2014 I'm not sure what's a sadder prospect: that you think we're dumb enough to buy that or that you're actually dumb enough to believe that yourself.My point is that Israel, probably the mildest warring country on the face of the Earth (except maybe the Obama Nation, i.e. the U.S.) is coming in for "disproportionate" criticism. The same could be said for Abu Ghraib, where some sophomoric soldiers put underwear on the top of the head of some Iraqi prisoners, so other Iraqi "fighters" beheaded an American (I don't remember if military or not). If a Western soldier wiggles his nose the wrong way there are heaps of condemnation. A beheading by "indigenous" people, or a suicide bombing? Not so bad. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Black Dog Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 My point is that Israel, probably the mildest warring country on the face of the Earth (except maybe the Obama Nation, i.e. the U.S.) is coming in for "disproportionate" criticism. The same could be said for Abu Ghraib, where some sophomoric soldiers put underwear on the top of the head of some Iraqi prisoners, so other Iraqi "fighters" beheaded an American (I don't remember if military or not). If a Western soldier wiggles his nose the wrong way there are heaps of condemnation. A beheading by "indigenous" people, or a suicide bombing? Not so bad. Yeah, it's almost as if we have higher expectations of the servants of freedom and democracy than some ignorant thug from some backwater. Quote
eyeball Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Shining beacons just ain't what they used to be but maybe they never were. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Shining beacons just ain't what they used to be but maybe they never were. Now you're getting it.....don't believe all the hype. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Posted August 6, 2014 Yeah, it's almost as if we have higher expectations of the servants of freedom and democracy than some ignorant thug from some backwater.Being "servants of freedom" is not a suicide pact. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 "Servants of freedom" is an oxymoron. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Black Dog Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Being "servants of freedom" is not a suicide pact. Nice bumper sticker. Doesn't mean shit. Quote
Bonam Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Yeah, it's almost as if we have higher expectations of the servants of freedom and democracy than some ignorant thug from some backwater. What is a servant of freedom? Quote
eyeball Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Now you're getting it.....don't believe all the hype. Oh I get it, what I don't get is the point of still pumping it. It seems so redundant - I guess there must still be a buck in it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Black Dog Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 "Servants of freedom" is an oxymoron. Huh. We have a place, all of us, in a long story. A story we continue, but whose end we will not see. It is the story of a new world that became a friend and liberator of the old, a story of a slave-holding society that became a servant of freedom, the story of a power that went into the world to protect but not possess, to defend but not to conquer. It is the American story. -Inaugural address of George W. Bush Quote
eyeball Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 What is a servant of freedom? A shining beacon. Jeez don't you get that? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Oh I get it, what I don't get is the point of still pumping it. It seems so redundant - I guess there must still be a buck in it. Hard to argue with success....if it works...keep doing it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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