Shooting in Texas

[Derek 2.0]

The NRA has already changed their constitution. Or at least the 2nd ammendment. They chisled the words "well regulated malitia" clean off their new hJQ building. Didn't need royal assent either.

The NRA hasn’t changed the United States Constitution…….But the United States Supreme Court ruled numerous times upholding the right to keep and bear arms.

[On Guard for Thee]

The NRA hasn’t changed the United States Constitution…….But the United States Supreme Court ruled numerous times upholding the right to keep and bear arms.

They changed the parts in their own minds that they don't agree to. But they are some wing nuts I must say. Anyway, who cares, let the mass murders begin.

[eyeball]

Did the SC repeal the right of Americans to change their constitution?

If so then I can see why a lot of Americans might want to arm themselves.

That said, an AK-47 in practically every house in Iraq didn't do a thing to prevent the tyranny of Saddam Hussein.

[Derek 2.0]

They changed the parts in their own minds that they don't agree to.

When did the National Rifle Association change the United States Constitution?

But they are some wing nuts I must say.

Calling them nuts is certainly subjective, but one can’t argue with their successful approach to gun rights……..What would you term the gun control lobbies that continually fail in their objectives? You know what they say about doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting differing results……

Anyway, who cares, let the mass murders begin.

Gun homicides within the United States have been decreasing for decades.

[Derek 2.0]

Did the SC repeal the right of Americans to change their constitution?

If so then I can see why a lot of Americans might want to arm themselves.

That said, an AK-47 in practically every house in Iraq didn't do a thing to prevent the tyranny of Saddam Hussein.

But on the inverse, 3% of American colonists managed to toss the Crown…….

[On Guard for Thee]

I know exactly what they say about doing things over and over. So you are saying the gun lobbyists are retarded? Based on a number of previous mass shootings it seems even if you have diagnosed and reported mental illness it doesn't hold you back from gittin' a gun. Ignoring that over and over does seem to indicate the issue you suggest.

[Derek 2.0]

I know exactly what they say about doing things over and over. So you are saying the gun lobbyists are retarded? Based on a number of previous mass shootings

In some regards……..Their concern of a naturally decreasing problem could be debated as folly, but many of their proposed solutions have little to no political chance of ever happening, and if they did, would have little to no effect on said decreasing problem.

[On Guard for Thee]

Well we can all see how things have unfolded with like minded NRA people at the helm. Wait for it, already another one hapenning in Florida.

[eyeball]

Ttheoretically speaking the SC could find itself being asked to establish a right of Americans to change the part of the constitution that guarantees the right to bear arms while simultaneously upholding the guarantee. Or would everyone's head just explode?

[Derek 2.0]

Ttheoretically speaking the SC could find itself being asked to establish a right of Americans to change the part of the constitution that guarantees the right to bear arms while simultaneously upholding the guarantee. Or would everyone's head just explode?

I think the possibility of exploding of heads would be predicated upon the final rulings....

[eyeball]

But on the inverse, 3% of American colonists managed to toss the Crown.

I wonder how many Canadians would take up arms to keep the Queen from getting the boot?

[Derek 2.0]

I wonder how many Canadians would take up arms to keep the Queen from getting the boot?

I think that would ultimately depend upon the circumstances……..With that said , history has shown, a small, armed, motivated group can cause mass disruption internally against an established and entrenched State power.

[bush_cheney2004]

Ttheoretically speaking the SC could find itself being asked to establish a right of Americans to change the part of the constitution that guarantees the right to bear arms while simultaneously upholding the guarantee. Or would everyone's head just explode?

Not possible...the U.S. Constitution is the highest law in the land. Changing the 2nd Amendment would require another amendment to the Constitution. Guns are here to stay !

[On Guard for Thee]

Not possible...the U.S. Constitution is the highest law in the land. Changing the 2nd Amendment would require another amendment to the Constitution. Guns are here to stay !

As are mass murders in schools, theatres, in homes, on the streets...etc., etc., etc. YEEHAW rednecks!

[Derek 2.0]

Not possible...the U.S. Constitution is the highest law in the land. Changing the 2nd Amendment would require another amendment to the Constitution. Guns are here to stay !

Exactly…the real question at hand, when will the gun grabbers realize that, and actually try to effect change in areas that are both in the realm of the possible, well also making a difference…….Instead of wasting the planned 50 million on a futile effort against the NRA, can you imagine if Bloomberg spent that money on mental health treatment/research and inner city programs aimed at dissuading gang violence?

Edited July 18, 2014 by Derek 2.0

[On Guard for Thee]

The "gun grabbers" have already realized such things need to be done. The question is, when will the gun nutz finally realize it?

[Derek 2.0]

The "gun grabbers" have already realized such things need to be done. The question is, when will the gun nutz finally realize it?

Actually you’re wrong on both counts as evident by actual actions by both camps.

[On Guard for Thee]

I don't know what "both counts" you are talking about. But I know this, if you thought Wayne Lapierre wasn't goofy enough, have you checked out theis Jim Porter guy. Now there is "sack o' hammers" kinda dumb.

[On Guard for Thee]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nutty-new-nra-president-jim-porter-war-guns-article-1.1333864

[Derek 2.0]

I don't know what "both counts" you are talking about. But I know this, if you thought Wayne Lapierre wasn't goofy enough, have you checked out theis Jim Porter guy. Now there is "sack o' hammers" kinda dumb.

What, in your misguided view, makes the President of the NRA dumb? I'll ask again, if the NRA is “dumb” and “nuts”, what would you consider their opponents that continually loose to them?

[On Guard for Thee]

I would say those "misguided" opponents are concerned about public safety. Nobody is saying you can't have your guns if that's what turns you on, just that if you have a record or a mental disorder(s) maybe you shouldn't have one. (or six) It's only common sense. Or you can hold steadfastly to this 2ns amendment for whatever brain dead reason and wait for the next horrorshow on a street near you.

[Derek 2.0]

I would say those "misguided" opponents are concerned about public safety.

You term them misguided, so I assume you now feel the gun control advocates are misguided in their proposals?

Nobody is saying you can't have your guns if that's what turns you on

Well no, that’s incorrect……many of the proponents of gun control desire to ban various forms of firearms in their entirety.

just that if you have a record or a mental disorder(s) maybe you shouldn't have one. (or six) It's only common sense.

The NRA was in favour of background checks in the 1990s that included all mental health, criminal and arrest records……Privacy laws, aided by advocates, were able to preclude said records from any proposed workable background check system……..Background checks that don’t include such records are clearly useless, as such, the NRA doesn’t support plausible background check models.

Or you can hold steadfastly to this 2ns amendment for whatever brain dead reason and wait for the next horrorshow on a street near you.

The 2nd Amendment, like the other parts of the American Constitution, are cherished by a majority, and are protected from those that wish to crap upon these rights by people with guns………

To paraphrase Mao:

American political power grows out of the barrel of a gun……….

[On Guard for Thee]

Maybe you didn't see the "" quotes around "misguided" that was your word. I just deflected it back to the gun totin' boyz who don't seem to get it after each mass shooting. They just say it's our dog given right or some bullshit like that, as they swab up the blood.

[Derek 2.0]

Maybe you didn't see the "" quotes around "misguided" that was your word. I just deflected it back to the gun totin' boyz who don't seem to get it after each mass shooting.

I see…….so if the NRA are “nuts” and “dumb”, what does that make those stymied in their efforts by the NRA?

Edited July 18, 2014 by Derek 2.0

[On Guard for Thee]

I see…….so if the NRA are “nuts” and “dumb”, what does that make those stymied in their efforts by the NRA?

It makes them still concerned about gun violence.