Should Obama Get Involved In Iraq?

[PIK]

The scary part is that there is another country with a war hardened armed force that is led by a right wing majority leader - Harper.

We also have a hardened and experienced crew without (but not looking for I hope) a war.

Right wing give us a break. The conservative government is more closer to the democrats.

[bush_cheney2004]

Never self interest, we are always there for the people.

I'm sure you believe that, but the parade of Canadian oil service workers in Gulf states on mining companies around the world says otherwise.

Edited June 23, 2014 by bush_cheney2004

[PIK]

I'm sure you believe that, but the parade of Canadian oil service workers in Gulf states on mining companies around the world says otherwise.

I was talking military, but so what if we have workers that go places to make big money.

[bush_cheney2004]

I was talking military, but so what if we have workers that go places to make big money.

I'm talking both....they go together that way.

[GostHacked]

I have notice him in the news lately,what is he up to.

Not sure, but the blunders of the invasion and the events after are still fresh in our minds. So many are not buying his schtick. Dick Cheney is one of the best trolls out there.

[monty16]

No, neither Obama or the US should get involved in any other country. It's never for a good or humanitarian cause and it always results in hundreds of thousands of victim under US bombs.

Russia is going to the Iraqi people rescue on the request of Maliki. Russia has shown that it is capable in the Crimea of not causing many deaths in doing what is required.

Russia will keep the peace and leave it to the people and they will sort it out peacefully without bombs from 30,000 feet.

Edited June 28, 2014 by monty16

[bush_cheney2004]

....Russia will keep the peace and leave it to the people and they will sort it out peacefully without bombs from 30,000 feet.

Sure....like they did in Afghanistan and Chechnya...using these friendly Mi-24's that only delivered candy and chocolates !

[monty16]

Wasn't that the Soviet Union? Should we show each other pictures of airplanes and other US weapons of mass destruction in order to make a point? How about going back to Vietnam? Or how about just not trying to take the heat off the US with references back to the Soviet war in Afghanistan which was undeniably as egregious when it comes to wars of aggression?

Take the high road American, not always a comparison of your country's evil with more evil. It's not a denial of any sort.

[bush_cheney2004]

Wasn't that the Soviet Union?

Not in Chechnya....the Soviet Union collapsed internally with a little help from the "West". Cramped Saddam's style too.

Take the high road American, not always a comparison of your country's evil with more evil. It's not a denial of any sort.

Rejected.....I prefer to celebrate "evil" and deny nothing. Don't like it ? Stop us if you can....in the mean time, wanna buy some more laser guided bombs for your CF-18's ?

[On Guard for Thee]

No, neither Obama or the US should get involved in any other country. It's never for a good or humanitarian cause and it always results in hundreds of thousands of victim under US bombs.

Russia is going to the Iraqi people rescue on the request of Maliki. Russia has shown that it is capable in the Crimea of not causing many deaths in doing what is required.

Russia will keep the peace and leave it to the people and they will sort it out peacefully without bombs from 30,000 feet.

Invading a territory which was long ago ceded with an agreement that the Russian's are a signatory to is your version of "doing what is needed"? Must be what RT told you to say eh?

[monty16]

Invading a territory which was long ago ceded with an agreement that the Russian's are a signatory to is your version of "doing what is needed"? Must be what RT told you to say eh?

Dong what is right is ceding to the will of the people. In Canada we even gave the people of Quebec the right to decide by referendum whether or not they would remain a part of Canada.

Would you have denied them that right and bombed them into submission to either Ukrainian or Canadian dictated control? Can you not at least celebrate with me the fact that it was bloodless in both cases? Would you rather support US methods of slaughtering hundreds of thousands and then losing to the wishes of the people anyway??

Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Serbia, and so on.

[On Guard for Thee]

Dong what is right is ceding to the will of the people. In Canada we even gave the people of Quebec the right to decide by referendum whether or not they would remain a part of Canada.

Would you have denied them that right and bombed them into submission to either Ukrainian or Canadian dictated control? Can you not at least celebrate with me the fact that it was bloodless in both cases? Would you rather support US methods of slaughtering hundreds of thousands and then losing to the wishes of the people anyway??

Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Serbia, and so on.

Canada didn't give Quebec the right to have a vote (two actually) they took it. Had either of those votes succeeded it would have been interesting in a number of ways, too many to adress here, now. Suffice it to say it would never have hapenned regardless of the vote. But it was bloodless here, but it sure as hell is not there. Putin is ex KGB remember? Mess with them and you disappear int he middle of the night.

[monty16]

Canada didn't give Quebec the right to have a vote (two actually) they took it. Had either of those votes succeeded it would have been interesting in a number of ways, too many to adress here, now. Suffice it to say it would never have hapenned regardless of the vote. But it was bloodless here, but it sure as hell is not there. Putin is ex KGB remember? Mess with them and you disappear int he middle of the night.

Oh really! Now you're trying to tell me that I'm going to go missing in the night? And you're trying to tell me to boot that Canada wouldn't have respected Quebec's decision on the referendum? But the really insne idea is that the Crimean people's decision wasn't bloodless!

The only thing you're right about is that Putin is tough and he's ex-KGB and so that's why the US tries so hard to demonize him. I'm not sure whether they or you have done the best job at that? LOL

And as we speak the blood spilled is of the Ukrainian people who oppose the US/Nato installed dictator. They helped uninstall the duly elected one!

[On Guard for Thee]

Oh really! Now you're trying to tell me that I'm going to go missing in the night? And you're trying to tell me to boot that Canada wouldn't have respected Quebec's decision on the referendum? But the really insne idea is that the Crimean people's decision wasn't bloodless!

The only thing you're right about is that Putin is tough and he's ex-KGB and so that's why the US tries so hard to demonize him. I'm not sure whether they or you have done the best job at that? LOL

And as we speak the blood spilled is of the Ukrainian people who oppose the US/Nato installed dictator. They helped uninstall the duly elected one!

First of all you tried to say it was bloodless. Then you talk about the "blood spilled" You should make up your mind. Even RT has that part reasonably correct.. And yes I'm going to stick my neck out and say Canada wouldn't have respected any other Quebec decision. And nor would the rest of the world. But I'm certainly glad we didn't have to deal with that in any case.

[monty16]

First of all you tried to say it was bloodless. Then you talk about the "blood spilled" You should make up your mind. Even RT has that part reasonably correct.. And yes I'm going to stick my neck out and say Canada wouldn't have respected any other Quebec decision. And nor would the rest of the world. But I'm certainly glad we didn't have to deal with that in any case.

Maybe you weren't paying attention. I obviously referred to the bloodless referendum in the Crimea. That's all settled and the blood being spilled now is a reference to the Eastern and Southern Ukraine by the Ukrainian military. And what in hell did you think I was referring to? LOL

If you would follow RT news you would be getting reports of what is happening in the Ukraine. Not to say that RT isn't biased but to say that it's not being disputed by any of the Amerinazis news sites.

And I'm going to stich 'my' neck out further and say that Canada wouldn't have bombed Quebec to stop them from separating.

We would have stood on guard for theeeeee! m

In any case, the Russians didn't and Canada didn't and the US did on many occasions, costly 500,000 Iraqi live according to latest estimates.

That's lowballed because both wars cost over a million lives of Iraqis.

Edited June 29, 2014 by monty16

[On Guard for Thee]

Maybe you weren't paying attention. I obviously referred to the bloodless referendum in the Crimea. That's all settled and the blood being spilled now is a reference to the Eastern and Southern Ukraine by the Ukrainian military. And what in hell did you think I was referring to? LOL

If you would follow RT news you would be getting reports of what is happening in the Ukraine. Not to say that RT isn't biased but to say that it's not being disputed by any of the Amerinazis news sites.

And I'm going to stich 'my' neck out further and say that Canada wouldn't have bombed Quebec to stop them from separating.

We would have stood on guard for theeeeee! m

In any case, the Russians didn't and Canada didn't and the US did on many occasions, costly 500,000 Iraqi live according to latest estimates.

That's lowballed because both wars cost over a million lives of Iraqis.

You do understand the horror that is Islamic (Sharia) law do you not, just to get an understanding here.

[monty16]

You do understand the horror that is Islamic (Sharia) law do you not, just to get an understanding here.

I understand the horror that religions bring into many societies. I understand the horror of people having their heads chopped off or women being stoned and beaten, just as well as I understand the horror of capital punishment being practiced in some Western societies. I also understand that this thread is not the place to discuss it so I invite you to start one that is.

No, Obama or the US should not get involved in Iraq and Bush1 and Bush2 and the US never should have.