hardworker786 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Posted May 9, 2014 PIK, if you won't at least make a small effort to understand what you're talking about, then there's really no point in responding to you. Stephen Harper is criticizing the head of the judicial branch of government for doing her job, communicating with the head of the executive branch of government. This was well before the case against Nadon went to court. Harper had 10 month to criticize her phone call and said nothing until now, until after the decision. The Chief Justice is required to remain non-partisan. Harper's creating a partisan issue, which means she's not allowed to respond. If Stephen Harper had a problem with her making that phone call he could have brought the issue before the judicial review committee that oversees problems and complaints with judges. He did not do that then and he's not doing that now, why? Even Charles Adler, whose praises you sang when he was at Sun, criticizes Harper for this. Wake up and take off your partisan blinders. Couldn't have said it better myself. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 9, 2014 Report Posted May 9, 2014 Harper went inot one of his snits and now he'll pay for it. Of course in the press, but also I can easlily imagine the Chief Justice curtailing any further advice to this government, Let 'em twist in the wind if they can't get it together to abide by the constitution. Quote
Traveller Posted May 9, 2014 Report Posted May 9, 2014 Most Canadians do not know that Harper is an evangelical Christian with neoconservative views. His administrative style reflects that. Would make Cheney proud. He's not even an Evangelical - that was Day's bag. Harper is however, a backroom policy wog with all the personal interaction skills of a rock. Remember he was Reform's Chief Policy Officer before he was ever a candidate for office. While he's a social conservative, he has actively worked to avoid 'moral' issues (abortion, same-sex marriage, etc). Don't forget he broke from Manning and Reform over populist issues, not returning until Manning was out and Day had dragged the Alliance into 'Stupid-Land'. I'm no Harper fan; but he's not an Evangelical. Quote "There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress." Mark Twain
ReeferMadness Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 Saying something stupid multiple times doesn't make it less stupid. Cause you seem to believe otherwise. And yet, it seems to work so well for the Conservative spin team. Go figure. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
On Guard for Thee Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 He's not even an Evangelical - that was Day's bag. Harper is however, a backroom policy wog with all the personal interaction skills of a rock. Remember he was Reform's Chief Policy Officer before he was ever a candidate for office. While he's a social conservative, he has actively worked to avoid 'moral' issues (abortion, same-sex marriage, etc). Don't forget he broke from Manning and Reform over populist issues, not returning until Manning was out and Day had dragged the Alliance into 'Stupid-Land'. I'm no Harper fan; but he's not an Evangelical. Have you ever checked into the church he attends? CAMA. Quote
Icebound Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 Would make Cheney proud. Any why not?... Top aides for the Harper Conservatives include Howard Anglin and Alykhan Velshi, who had a previous life in Washington.... writing opinions for AMERICAN conservatives. Quote
Argus Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) And yet, it seems to work so well for the Conservative spin team. Go figure. No, it actually doesn't. The Conservatives couldn't spin a roulette wheel. They never have been able to. Public relations is absolutely not their thing. Edited May 10, 2014 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
ReeferMadness Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 No, it actually doesn't. The Consercatives couldn't spin a roulette wheel. They never have been able to. Public relations is absolutely not their thing. What color is the sky on your planet? Not only do the Cons outspend everyone else from party funds, they misuse public funds to pay for political advertising under the ridiculous guise of "information campaigns". But the most effective use of spin is Harper's legions of wealthy but poorly informed legions who will swallow whatever nonsense his spin doctors come up with. No matter how many brilliant, educated people who made the life studying political science said otherwise, Harper's ignorant, wealthy army actually believed that Stephane Dion was mounting a coup when he attempted to form a coalition government. These same wealthy, ignorant souls now believe the spin doctors when they're told that there is something unusual about the Chief Justice phoning to advise Harper. So, when you have legions of idiots who will repeat like bleating sheep whatever lies you spout, you hardly need the spin doctors. But Harper has them anyway. And in the context of this discussion, your tag line is so ironic. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Smallc Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 What color is the sky on your planet? I'm guessing blue. The Conservatives don't know how to explain or frame anything. Quote
Shady Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 Most Canadians do not know that Harper is an evangelical Christian with neoconservative views. His administrative style reflects that. Would make Cheney proud. Yes, tell us more of what we don't know about Harper. Once again you prove that you're not at all what you initially said you are. You're just a troll. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) I'm guessing blue. The Conservatives don't know how to explain or frame anything.they sure as hell spend a lot of money explaining and framing their opponents. Edited May 10, 2014 by cybercoma Quote
Smallc Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 they sure as hell spend a lot of money explaining and framing their opponents. Well they definitely can't explain government policy. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 Mostly because many of the things they do are beyond explanation. Quote
Argus Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 they sure as hell spend a lot of money explaining and framing their opponents. Yes, but they suck at it. Btw, any comment on the Liberals' new attack ads? Didn't they say they weren't going to do that? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
hardworker786 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Posted May 11, 2014 Yes, tell us more of what we don't know about Harper. Once again you prove that you're not at all what you initially said you are. You're just a troll. Okie dokie then. Keep proving my point for me. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 11, 2014 Report Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Yes, but they suck at it. Btw, any comment on the Liberals' new attack ads? Didn't they say they weren't going to do that? i don't sub to television, so I haven't seen them. But I do hate campaigning outside the writs. I've said it before. The problem is that's what the CPC has done, so it becomes a race to the bottom. I don't to expect the other parties to ignore it. Edited May 11, 2014 by cybercoma Quote
cybercoma Posted May 15, 2014 Report Posted May 15, 2014 Now that Stephen Harper is backpedaling, will he issue a public apology to the Chief Justice admitting his lies? http://read.thestar.com/?origref=#!/article/5373fd15ec0691653a000351-stephen-harper-changes-version-of-events-around-phone-call-by-beverley-mclachlin Quote
Big Guy Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Posted May 16, 2014 I do not recollect Stephen Harper apologizing for anything. It appears that he considers an apology for a mistake to be a weakness rather than a polite strength. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
On Guard for Thee Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Harper's arrogance won't allow him to accept that he make's mistakes. He's been "very clear" about that. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) I do not recollect Stephen Harper apologizing for anything. It appears that he considers an apology for a mistake to be a weakness rather than a polite strength. I do... Harper apologizes over rally screening Speaking at a news conference in the Ontario riding of Vaughan, Harper said his party is encouraging people to come and listen to his message. "If anybody is kept out of any of our events that is there to hear our message, we obviously apologize to them," Harper said on Thursday. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-apologizes-over-rally-screening-1.996689 Edited May 16, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Harper apologizes all the time. He's a professional apologetic. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Harper apologizes all the time. He's a professional apologetic. Well I'm glad to hear he's good at something. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Well I'm glad to hear he's good at something. Sure is - he officially apologized for all of Canada for its treatment of "aboriginals" in residential schools. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Sure is - he officially apologized for all of Canada for its treatment of "aboriginals" in residential schools. Well in that case he is apologizing for something that he or his current government was not responsible for. Quote
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