-TSS- Posted May 2, 2014 Report Posted May 2, 2014 12 years ago in the middle of an election-campaign in the Netherlands the party-leader of a new party was murdered. Pim Fortuyn was known for his anti-islam rhetoric. He was murdered by a human excrement whose name doesn't deserve a mention. That murderer got 18 years of sentence but now after 12 years he is being released. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27261291 I know that this must have something to do with 12/18=2/3 but it still begs the question why. He is released on condition that he may not leave the country and he may not enter the cities of the Hague and Rotterdam where Fortuyn was very active because there may be people who don't like him very much. And yes, he has to wear an electronic tag on him at all times. Yet still, could you imagine on your side of the pond that anyone could get away with premeditated murder so lightly? 12 years for a murder, especially for political motives, is light. This news comes handily at the same time when the Dutch media are doing their best to demonise another politician Geert Wilders who also is very critical of muslim-immigration. Quote
Peter F Posted May 3, 2014 Report Posted May 3, 2014 First of the Dutch get to make thier own laws and sentences. According to wiki the average sentence is 12 to 15 years for killing another. No doubt many would consider that 'light' as you say. But then the Dutch government isn't beholden to what a bunch think in far distant lands. As for Geert, I have a very low opinion of the mans beliefs and actions. Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
bleeding heart Posted May 3, 2014 Report Posted May 3, 2014 Geert does not impress me much, either. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
jbg Posted May 3, 2014 Report Posted May 3, 2014 Geert does not impress me much, either.Why, because he wants to protect Western civilization. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
-TSS- Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Posted May 3, 2014 Why, because he wants to protect Western civilization. Note the tense; he wanted. He is dead now because he was murdered by these "better people". Quote
jbg Posted May 3, 2014 Report Posted May 3, 2014 Note the tense; he wanted. He is dead now because he was murdered by these "better people". Geert is not dead. Pym is. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
-TSS- Posted May 4, 2014 Author Report Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) First of the Dutch get to make thier own laws and sentences. According to wiki the average sentence is 12 to 15 years for killing another. No doubt many would consider that 'light' as you say. But then the Dutch government isn't beholden to what a bunch think in far distant lands. As for Geert, I have a very low opinion of the mans beliefs and actions. Agreed that the Dutch have their own judicial system. Yet at the same time in this very sub-section of this forum we have a thread about the Egyptian government sentencing over 600 people to death. Most of the comments are expressing outrage and none whatsoever are saying how Egypt has its own laws. Double standards at work, anyone? Edited May 4, 2014 by -TSS- Quote
Remiel Posted May 4, 2014 Report Posted May 4, 2014 Parole after twelve years is a difference of opinion. 600 executions from a single mass trial is an atrocity. These situations are orders of magnitude different. You should think twice about lauding Wilders, jbg. He is starting to show the true colours we all new were there: http://www.timesofisrael.com/is-the-honeymoon-over-for-geert-wilders-and-dutch-jews/ . Quote
-TSS- Posted May 4, 2014 Author Report Posted May 4, 2014 Parole after twelve years is a difference of opinion. 600 executions from a single mass trial is an atrocity. These situations are orders of magnitude different. You should think twice about lauding Wilders, jbg. He is starting to show the true colours we all new were there: http://www.timesofisrael.com/is-the-honeymoon-over-for-geert-wilders-and-dutch-jews/ . The commentary-section of the link you posted is priceless. Some North-American hippie accusing Europeans of racism. Ooh, the delicious irony! Quote
Remiel Posted May 4, 2014 Report Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) The commentary-section of the link you posted is priceless. Some North-American hippie accusing Europeans of racism. Ooh, the delicious irony! Is that the Nora Halpert person you are referring to? Edited May 4, 2014 by Remiel Quote
jbg Posted May 5, 2014 Report Posted May 5, 2014 Parole after twelve years is a difference of opinion. 600 executions from a single mass trial is an atrocity. These situations are orders of magnitude different. You should think twice about lauding Wilders, jbg. He is starting to show the true colours we all new were there: http://www.timesofisrael.com/is-the-honeymoon-over-for-geert-wilders-and-dutch-jews/ . I don't like what I read but I'm still not convinced. You may yet be right though. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Peter F Posted May 5, 2014 Report Posted May 5, 2014 Agreed that the Dutch have their own judicial system. Yet at the same time in this very sub-section of this forum we have a thread about the Egyptian government sentencing over 600 people to death. Most of the comments are expressing outrage and none whatsoever are saying how Egypt has its own laws. Double standards at work, anyone? Perhaps many people do not consider an 18 year sentence and parole after 2/3 served outrageous Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
-TSS- Posted May 6, 2014 Author Report Posted May 6, 2014 This speech caused Wilders his latest trouble: http://www.examiner.com/article/geert-wilders-compared-with-nazi-propaganda-master-joseph-goebbels Quote
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