The Purity of Aboriginal Blood? Who cares?

[Guest]

Is there truth to this? It is an interesting response. I never thought of it this way. But it does raise questions in my mind.

You could start a poll! Ask how many white men on here want to father the children of the woman in the OP. It would serve two purposes. It would get the thread back on track, and it would show Cybercoma's post up for being the garbage that it is.

Unless we all secretly do want to father her children...

Edited April 29, 2014 by bcsapper

[Smallc]

I don't even want to associate with someone with that kind of attitude. I'll debate them for hours though.

[-1=e^ipi]

Good grief. Start a new thread about this subject. It has nothing to do with this thread.

People in the thread where making claims that white males experience no discrimination & making the nonsense privilege claims. My comments were totally related.

Is there truth to this? It is an interesting response. I never thought of it this way. But it does raise questions in my mind.

There is no truth. Just bigoted delusion.

[WestCoastRunner]

You could start a poll! Ask how many white men on here want to father the children of the woman in the OP. It would serve two purposes. It would get the thread back on track, and it would show Cybercoma's post up for being the garbage that it is.

Unless we all secretly do want to father her children...

I don't think that is exactly what cybercoma is alluding to but I find it interesting as to the reaction of the men on this forum to this native woman's desire to marry a native man.

[-1=e^ipi]

I don't think that is exactly what cybercoma is alluding to but I find it interesting as to the reaction of the men on this forum to this native woman's desire to marry a native man.

Why does the gender of the person who makes comments matter?

[WestCoastRunner]

Why does the gender of the person who makes comments matter?

It matters a great deal. Men and women arrive where they are from very different perspectives and circumstances.

[-1=e^ipi]

It matters a great deal. Men and women arrive where they are from very different perspectives and circumstances.

Sounds like sexism to me.

[WestCoastRunner]

Sounds like sexism to me.

Really? Ok.

[Guest]

I don't think that is exactly what cybercoma is alluding to but I find it interesting as to the reaction of the men on this forum to this native woman's desire to marry a native man.

Well, I didn't have an opinion on that, as I don't care.

The OP was an understandable reaction to a situation that seemed to be implying the poster was doing something wrong by diluting aboriginal bloodlines.

The initial reaction of other posters, including women (woman?) seemed to be that some of the language quoted in the article was questionable, and suggested a double standard. Regarding the woman who is the focus of the article, I don't think I saw a post questioning her right or her judgement when it came to her choice of partners. I could be wrong, and I'm not going back to read 19 pages of posts. I'll stand corrected if I am.

Edit> I did see a post or two questioning her motives. As in, financial instead of genetic integrity. I guess those were not justified based an her assertion that her kids would be status even if she married a white guy.

Edited April 29, 2014 by bcsapper

[Smallc]

I question her judgement, but not her right.

[kimmy]

I don't think anybody here is suggesting that the women quoted in the article have the right to date and marry and have children with whoever they want, using whatever criteria they want.

I don't think anybody here is suggesting that white guys are being harmed by their choices.

And personally, I don't see any harm in the idea of preserving their "bloodline" either. I think that the wide variety of human appearance is part of our beauty, and I think that when we do eventually meld into "the golden mean" as a poster put it in an older thread, we'll have lost something.

What chaps my ass about this is that there is certainly a double standard. A few years back, I wrote something here about hoping that I might have descendants that look like me, and received quite a number of insulting and even hateful responses, including from one of this board's "native advocates".

-k

[Argus]

Because white men get bent out of shape when something is out of reach to them,

No, they just think you're belief only white people are racists is dumb.

[Smallc]

Yeah people in General get bent out of shape when they're targeted as being automatically racist. That's really the general argument - you're white and gee up in a white dominated society where racism is institutionalized (yeah sure) and so we're all racist.

[Argus]

IWhat chaps my ass about this is that there is certainly a double standard. A few years back, I wrote something here about hoping that I might have descendants that look like me, and received quite a number of insulting and even hateful responses, including from one of this board's "native advocates".

-k

It's the old double standard about say "Black Pride" vs "White Pride". One is fine, the other is racist. You can have a "Black Business Association" or a "Native Artist's Collective", or "Women's Entrepeneurs" but no "White Business Association" or "Male Entrepeneurs".

You aren't allowed to show any pride in your ethnicity unless it's a minority ethnicity, and suggesting a fondness for blonde kids is presumed to be expressing pride in your white Aryan ethnicity.

Personally, I think the more blonde girls out there the better!

Edited April 29, 2014 by Argus

[eyeball]

Oh well, call it a burden if you must but sometimes there's just nothing to be done but suck it up, move on and hope It eventually passes.

[Wilber]

Because white men get bent out of shape when something is out of reach to them, like an aboriginal woman choosing to marry an aboriginal man. It hurts their pride to think that there's something in society that is off limits to them when all their lives they've been taught that they can have anything they want. So in response they make up stupid scenarios that make them feel like there is some sort of white equivalent to the racism and injustices faced by aboriginal peoples in Canada.

What BS, Aboriginals never want things that are out of reach to them? What crap, it's human nature. I wish her well in her quest but quite frankly, she sounds like a bit of PITA to me.

[cybercoma]

It's amazing how terrible some of the reading comprehension is around here. I say racism is about power relationships and that suddenly means I said that ONLY white people can be racist. It's doubly stupid to say that when I gave a specific example of white people facing racism right in this thread. Perhaps if a few of you spent half as much time learning about racism as you do giving your uneducated opinions about it, you would have more to contribute than laughable whining about the plight of the white middle class man in North America.

[Smallc]

That's cool and all, but you're still wrong. Michael did an excellent job of pointing out how. Racism is about wrongful discrimination. The opinion of this woman is based on such ideas. Power makes racism worse, no question, but it is discrimination that is at its core.

[cybercoma]

It's wrong for her to discriminate when choosing a husband? Sure thing then.

[TimG]

I say racism is about power relationships and that suddenly means I said that ONLY white people can be racist.

You are entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong. Racism is discrimination based on race. It makes no difference who is doing the discriminating - it is still racist to discriminate. Now you can repeat your shamelessly hypocritical definition but it clear that many posters on this forum simply disagree.

[cybercoma]

Just so you know everyone discriminates when choosing a mate.

[Smallc]

It's wrong for her to discriminate when choosing a husband? Sure thing then.

Some of her reasons are self admittedly racist, even if she doesn't see it that way. I had no such racial considerations.

[cybercoma]

Because of your white male privilege. You don't even see that.

[Smallc]

No, because I don't need to make such distinctions. You don't seem to understand that. I grew up in a place where being white was a reason to be discriminated against. I vowed to never look at other people as different based on their race, just as my parents taught me.

Discrimination is wrong no matter where it's coming from.

[cybercoma]

That's because you get the privilege to ignore race because your race doesn't hold you back in Canada. That is the privilege of being white in our society. When people like you call for ignoring race, it tells people of colour to STFU about the discrimination that they face because you're not willing to recognize it.