Laureen Harper - Shameful reporting by The Star

[cybercoma]

I know far more about the issues facing aboriginal people than you'll ever imagine to. Attitudes like this though:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/aboriginal/looking-for-first-nations-love-indigenous-dating-life-complex-1.2615016

They kind of make the point of what I was trying to say.

You're making a very big assumption. I know you work with First Nations, but you've shown time and again in these threads that you're pretty intolerant and can't see anything beyond your white privilege.

Edit: Just the fact that you'll point to treaty rights and completely ignore the absolutely degrading conditions and systemic discrimination faced by aboriginal people in Canada demonstrates exactly what I'm saying.

Edited April 20, 2014 by cybercoma

[Shady]

This thread has been turned into a cess pool. I'm staying out of this, I can see where it's heading. It's too bad one particular person had to ruin it.

[WWWTT]

This thread has been turned into a cess pool. I'm staying out of this, I can see where it's heading. It's too bad one particular person had to ruin it.

So far it seems all in line to the forum rules(from what I have read). But I wouldn't be surprised if a few comments latter it starts getting more vicious and going down hill!

Charles A. at that point will step in and shut this thread down. Taking a break from this isn't bad advise.

WWWTT

[cybercoma]

This thread has been turned into a cess pool. I'm staying out of this, I can see where it's heading. It's too bad one particular person had to ruin it.

Take care. We wouldn't want you to have to think about how other people's experiences are vastly different from your own. You might have to start questioning some of your ideologies and values.

[Keepitsimple]

You're making a very big assumption. I know you work with First Nations, but you've shown time and again in these threads that you're pretty intolerant and can't see anything beyond your white privilege.

You might think that the term "white privilege" is not racist......but I find it very distasteful and I personally find it to be pretty close to racism.

[Bob Macadoo]

This thread has been turned into a cess pool. I'm staying out of this, I can see where it's heading. It's too bad one particular person had to ruin it.

As far as I can tell only one person tried to take a dump on this thread to turn it into a cesspool. Wasn't successful though, and if they're leaving......

Edited April 20, 2014 by Bob Macadoo

[Bob Macadoo]

You might think that the term "white privilege" is not racist......but I find it very distasteful and I personally find it to be pretty close to racism.

You finding something distasteful and racism are mutually exclusive. Most often epiphanies come from shocking or distasteful realizations.

[cybercoma]

You might think that the term "white privilege" is not racist......but I find it very distasteful and I personally find it to be pretty close to racism.

Well it isn't, so you can whine all you want about it.

[Argus]

it's not to silence anything. Maybe if you had any knowledge about the topic at all you would understand what I'm saying. Nobody is saying aboriginal women are "mean more." The entire f'ing point is that they quite clearly don't mean as much as other missing and murdered women, who would have been treated to proper and full investigations. White privilege here is not having to even consider how racist the system is because white people don't face those problems,

So you think that when a white or black prostitute disappears the police go into full action mode to find out where she went? Have I got that right?

[Argus]

Maybe she rather help cats instead of people from a different heritage?

This is probably what she believes, not her husband.

WWWTT

Don't be silly. She's not allowed to get involved in charities which would be considered political. The whole idea behind this 'missing aboriginal women' thing is to prod the government into doing certain things. Regardless of whether you think the government SHOULD do those thing it would be highly innapropriate for the PMs wife to be involved.

And how many charities do you donate time to, btw? I know that in addition to animal welfare charities LH donates time and effort on behalf of meals on wheels, organ donation, cancer research and child protection, among others.

Edited April 20, 2014 by Argus

[Smallc]

Edit: Just the fact that you'll point to treaty rights and completely ignore the absolutely degrading conditions and systemic discrimination faced by aboriginal people in Canada demonstrates exactly what I'm saying.

On this issue, you know not of what you speak in terms of my feelings, as evidenced by the above, but I too am done with this thread.

I see people as equals. The law should recognize us as such, and everything else will follow.

Edited April 20, 2014 by Smallc

[WWWTT]

Don't be silly. She's not allowed to get involved in charities which would be considered political. The whole idea behind this 'missing aboriginal women' thing is to prod the government into doing certain things. Regardless of whether you think the government SHOULD do those thing it would be highly innapropriate for the PMs wife to be involved.

Oh ya but she openly campaigns for her husband and the conservative party???? I even provided the link and quote where she is referred to as Harper's secret weapon (or something like that).

If YOU think that fighting for women's rights regardless of their heritage or profession (prostitution) is a political issue, than that says a lot about where you stand on the political spectrum!

Human rights have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with politics!

But for some reason that is not the case is it????

WWWTT

[Argus]

Oh ya but she openly campaigns for her husband and the conservative party???? I even provided the link and quote where she is referred to as Harper's secret weapon (or something like that).

Irrelevent. She goes on campaign as his wife, but makes no political speeches or statements. She just smiles and nods and waves and chats about things. And even if she did, her actions are in support of her husband and his government. What you are suggesting is she get involved with a charity which is making demands on her husband and his party, ie, are opposed to them, are complaining to them. She cannot publicly bitch at her husband's government.

Not to say she doesn't privately make her complaints know to her husband, of course.

[WWWTT]

And how many charities do you donate time to, btw? I know that in addition to animal welfare charities LH donates time and effort on behalf of meals on wheels, organ donation, cancer research and child protection, among others.

It would be helpful to provide the link where you found this.

I searched and couldn't.

And if she does help out other charities good for her!

And helping out cats is a good charity as well that I proudly support!

I am careful about the charities that I support. World Vision is one I will stay away from. I gave them money after the Haiti quake, but later found out that so little of each dollar contributed goes to the victims. Usually natural disasters and quakes that are huge and on poorer countries seem to be the common theme for my contributions. Locally it's cat welfare.

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

Irrelevent. She goes on campaign as his wife, but makes no political speeches or statements. She just smiles and nods and waves and chats about things. And even if she did, her actions are in support of her husband and his government. What you are suggesting is she get involved with a charity which is making demands on her husband and his party, ie, are opposed to them, are complaining to them. She cannot publicly bitch at her husband's government.

Not to say she doesn't privately make her complaints know to her husband, of course.

And she has the nickname of the "secret weapon" because she just smiles and nods and waves and chats about things??????

What a load of BS I ever heard!!! Once again, I don't know if I should freekin laugh or be freekin angry!

You're the one that's making this a political issue, which sais a lot about those who make conservative political donators!

WWWTT

[Smallc]

I'm actually rather offended by this idea that I can't see past my "white privilege" when I deal directly with these issues every single day...but hey, what do I know? I'm only white.

[cybercoma]

I'm actually rather offended by this idea that I can't see past my "white privilege" when I deal directly with these issues every single day...but hey, what do I know? I'm only white.

I was referring to a very specific comment that you made. I don't know or care what you do everyday. When you think bringing attention to racial discrimination in policing is putting that discriminated group above others, then yeah, you need to check your privilege plain and simple.

[Smallc]

Is there racial discrimination in policing of missing and murdered prostitues (since that's generally what we're talking about) and substance a users? Do any missing prostitutes get the full attention of otherwised stretched police resources? Further, where are tha families of these women? Do they not bear some responsibility for this? Where was the community that's so ready to cry racism now...where were they when these women were going missing?

Further to that, what does this have to do with homeless cats?

[GostHacked]

How about homeless people? I like cats a lot, but some other things need to come first.

[WestCoastRunner]

Is there racial discrimination in policing of missing and murdered prostitues (since that's generally what we're talking about) and substance a users? Do any missing prostitutes get the full attention of otherwised stretched police resources? Further, where are tha families of these women? Do they not bear some responsibility for this? Where was the community that's so ready to cry racism now...where were they when these women were going missing?

Further to that, what does this have to do with homeless cats?

This should answer most of your questions. Robert PIcton Murders

This has nothing to do with cats. But it has everything to do with murdered women (living on the fringes of society) in Canada not getting policing and justice that they deserve.

[cybercoma]

This should answer most of your questions. Robert PIcton Murders

This has nothing to do with cats. But it has everything to do with murdered women (living on the fringes of society) in Canada not getting policing and justice that they deserve.

And where women already face discrimination, add race to that and the negative effects of being both a woman and aboriginal are more than the sum of each.

[WWWTT]

How about homeless people? I like cats a lot, but some other things need to come first.

If you feel so strongly about the issue, than do a high profile protest.

Find an event that will have a significant attendant, then use your cause to steal the limelight away from them and hope the cameras are rolling!

After all that's what this thread is/was about. The media coverage of an event successfully hijacked by a protestor. Not the topic of the protest, but the protest itself.

Last couple of pages here are actually all thread drift if anyone cares.

WWWTT

[Smallc]

This has nothing to do with cats.

Then that was the wrong forum.

[Smallc]

How about homeless people? I like cats a lot, but some other things need to come first.

She assists many different charities. This night was about cats. Get over it.

Edited April 20, 2014 by Smallc

[Smallc]

This should answer most of your questions. Robert PIcton Murders

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That answered nothing.