Michael Hardner Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 But it does matter, whether there's popular support for it or not. That's what I mean when I was saying the outrage isn't there. I don't think these programs need to be supported as much as they need to be unopposed. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
cybercoma Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 That's what I mean when I was saying the outrage isn't there. I don't think these programs need to be supported as much as they need to be unopposed.As with anything in government. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Posted February 5, 2014 That's what I mean when I was saying the outrage isn't there. I don't think these programs need to be supported as much as they need to be unopposed. You mean opposed, not unopposed. You think CSEC wants this information out there? They can claim all of this secret and instantly shut up about it so we never hear about it again. They can control the message as much as they can control the tracking of the message. People don't care because people are not paying attention, and they would rather escape the reality through entertainment. One reason why entertainment is so huge and vast and varied. And now a word from our sponsors. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 You mean opposed, not unopposed. No, I meant unopposed. I think you misunderstood that I was speaking from the POV of the government trying to keep this program running. That is, they don't need support from the public exactly - just not overt opposition. You think CSEC wants this information out there? They can claim all of this secret and instantly shut up about it so we never hear about it again. They can control the message as much as they can control the tracking of the message. I agree, but I point out that we didn't hear about this because of them so they don't have ultimate control of the message. People don't care because people are not paying attention, and they would rather escape the reality through entertainment. One reason why entertainment is so huge and vast and varied. Because ? This statement is a muse on how/why people pay attention to things. Do they pay attention because they care or do they care because they pay attention ? It's all just words to me - the point is that they don't care, and they don't pay attention so this will continue. You can complain, but on a certain level this speaks to the success of our system in keeping people well fed, and amused. It's pretty crass, but if in fact the pursuit of happiness is food, shelter and TV then we have won. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
jbg Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 If I tried to make that argument, you'd laugh it out of the room, and properly so. You're forgetting the role of over-charging, or filing exaggerated charges. Many defendants are likely guilty of something though not necessarily what the Crown charges. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Michael Hardner Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 I don't have a copy of the mandate but reports I hear claim it makes it illegal to target Canadians, either inside or outside the country.It sure sounds to me like they may have exceeded that mandate. I encourage you to listen to this show - Jesse Brown's Canadaland - in which they speak in depth about the need for a legal definition of 'metadata'. The idea is that CSEC is gaming the system by using the term 'metadata' to the point where "the" public consciousness starts to distinguish that from data. http://canadalandshow.com/canadas-spies-game-media/ It's convincing to me that this *might* be a thing ... and so I will add this to a list of my major concerns. Still, it doesn't seem to me that Canadians care enough, which is not to say that they shouldn't care. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Wilber Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 Of course you guys have complete faith that your privacy is being respected whenever you are using Starbucks, Tims or Micky D's wifi. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Argus Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 Of course you guys have complete faith that your privacy is being respected whenever you are using Starbucks, Tims or Micky D's wifi. Or when you use your hotmail account... http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/21/5533814/google-yahoo-apple-all-share-microsofts-troubling-email-privacy-policy Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Of course you guys have complete faith that your privacy is being respected whenever you are using Starbucks, Tims or Micky D's wifi. The only time use free wifi is if I am in a jam and need some information. Other than that, I have it off 99% of the time. I even have wifi disabled at home. I don't use it or have any devices other than my phone that would benefit with wifi. All free wifi spots track and log. Sometimes it's good to just keep your phone in your pocket. Edited April 2, 2014 by GostHacked Quote
Argus Posted April 2, 2014 Report Posted April 2, 2014 The only time use free wifi is if I am in a jam and need some information. Other than that, I have it off 99% of the time. I even have wifi disabled at home. I don't use it or have any devices other than my phone that would benefit with wifi. And do you have any loyalty cards? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Posted April 2, 2014 And do you have any loyalty cards? What relevance would that have on illegal wifi snooping and tracking? Quote
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