Should Justin Trudeau resign?

[PIK]

Sure it is. History is the best predictor of the future. He's never had any ideas - and it follows suit that he never will. Heck, he never even showed any interest in politics. The guy is over 40 and has never cobbled together a single policy idea - well, except for marijuana. In QP, he's like a robot reading from a script - he's not committed enough to the substance of his "arguments" to actually remember his lines. "Keeping his cards close" is just an excuse devised to keep his shallowness out of the public eye. It can't go on forever and when the dam bursts, it won't be a pretty sight.

The funny thing is , if he showed up to run for the leadership with his creditials and a last name smith, he would have been laughed right out of the hall. So all that says is that the libs think you are all stupid and will vote for this guy because of who he is. At least they think women are stupid and they might be right.

[Spiderfish]

Trudeau is a giant question mark at this point. We know nothing about him. So it's impossible to really say anything one way or another about his "ideas".

Not so, we are getting to know a few things about his ideals…

We know he supports increased “family class” immigration, but at the same time can’t disagree with the exalted Dr. Suzuki and his idea that immigration is bad for this country.

We know that he supported the long gun registry, yet describes it as a failure.

We know that when it comes to terrorist attacks, the primary importance is to understand the root causes, by understanding the feelings of exclusion that the attackers must surely possess.

We know he has a level of admiration for dictatorships such as China and their efficiencies to turn the economy around.

We know that as a Liberal, he feels that this country is better served when there are more Quebecers in charge than Albertans, and that “Canada isn't doing well right now because it's Albertans who control our community and socio-democratic agenda.”

We are starting to get to know him, and I'm sure we will get to know him a lot better over the next couple of years.

[socialist]

Trudeau speaks the way a social worker in his 20's does. He does not have gravitas. He certainly has no depth of ideas.

I fear he will take a great party with a great tradition down with him.

I take offense to your ignorant statement. I know many social workers and they do a very important job. look at all the troubled youth they help. What do you do to help troubled youth?

Social workers are a highly educated segment of our society and their work is VERY important.

[jbg]

We are starting to get to know him, and I'm sure we will get to know him a lot better over the next couple of years.

I hope familiarity breeds contempt a lot faster than it did for his sperm donor father. Edited December 4, 2013 by jbg

[jbg]

I take offense to your ignorant statement. I know many social workers and they do a very important job. look at all the troubled youth they help. What do you do to help troubled youth?

Bad question to ask me. I have worked at the former Camp Rainbow, a camp for emotionally disturbed children. And as the father of a special needs son I am heavily involved in advocacy and programming for them.

Social workers are a highly educated segment of our society and their work is VERY important.

My stepsister is quite a talented social worker. That doesn't make either of us Presidential (or in your country Prime Ministerial or GG material).

[jacee]

Your point is accurately stated.....but the key words are "may have" and "possibility". In the fog of war that included taliban atrocities that boggle the mind (beheadings, blowing up girls schools with children in it, targeting funeral processions, killing first-responders) shouting from the rooftops that Canada was committing war crimes and Harper was responisble.....well, it comes very close to a level of treason.

That's about the most ridiculous comment I've read here.

Good thing we have laws of war.

Otherwise the 'eye-for-an-eye' brigade would have our soldiers mimicking the terrorists' behaviour. Then there wouldn't be any 'good guys' anymore.

Edited December 4, 2013 by jacee

[PIK]

Are you referring to Doug Ford's dispicable attempt to get Chief Blair to resign? I thought that was pretty low, considering he doesn't even think his brother should resign. But I guess if you agree with that, you would be gung-ho for anyone you disagree with to resign.

Blair should resign for being a idiot. Like his quote about if the gun reg is cancelled there will be kaos in the streets or something close to that. Well shootings have dropped since it was killed.

[jbg]

Blair should resign for being a idiot. Like his quote about if the gun reg is cancelled there will be kaos in the streets or something close to that. Well shootings have dropped since it was killed.

Registered guns are incapable of killing people. Only unregistered guns are lethal weapons. Most murderers at least take gun laws seriously.

[On Guard for Thee]

Your point is accurately stated.....but the key words are "may have" and "possibility". In the fog of war that included taliban atrocities that boggle the mind (beheadings, blowing up girls schools with children in it, targeting funeral processions, killing first-responders) shouting from the rooftops that Canada was committing war crimes and Harper was responisble.....well, it comes very close to a level of treason.

I have to use the terms you have highlighted because the report which may have contained the truth was quashed by Harper. I know about Taliban "stuff" I worked there. The truth is we have laws here and you can't ignore them because of what someone else does. I reckon contempt of the very democracy you have been elected to represent is a lot closer to treason than seeking the truth.

[PIK]

I want a probe into what and when trudeau knew about his senator. It seems he was doing it to foriegn women during his NATO trips as far back as 96.

[PIK]

If that's what you think the Senate scandal issue is about, then you clearly have no idea what the problem is. Conservative Senator Noel Kinsella even said to the press today that the entire situation is an embarrassment to him. We're talking about the PMO trying to interfere with an independent audit, the PMO writing a Senate committee's report, and the Conservative Party paying a sitting Senator to be uncooperative with an independent audit. This isn't simply "getting caught trying to pay back taxpayers money." You quite obviously haven't been paying any attention whatsoever to what's going on.

And I see maybe Kinsella has some expaling to do from what I hear tommy say.

[Smallc]

There's no evidence that the Speaker of the Senate has anything to answer for.

[On Guard for Thee]

Sure it is. History is the best predictor of the future. He's never had any ideas - and it follows suit that he never will. Heck, he never even showed any interest in politics. The guy is over 40 and has never cobbled together a single policy idea - well, except for marijuana. In QP, he's like a robot reading from a script - he's not committed enough to the substance of his "arguments" to actually remember his lines. "Keeping his cards close" is just an excuse devised to keep his shallowness out of the public eye. It can't go on forever and when the dam bursts, it won't be a pretty sight.

Wait a second, are you talking about Trudeau, or Harper? Boy his dam has burst and it sure isn't pretty is it. Have you watched QP lately? Mind you one could certainly be forgiven for tuning out that junk that is going on there now. We have all heard mind numbing talking points that Harper and his people say over and over so it's not too important we can no longer hear over the laughter after he starts out yet again, "I've been perfectly clear....." and then is anything but. I think both Justin and Thomas have a lot of ears craving to hear something, anything that is not a cringing talking point.

[gunrutz]

Registered guns are incapable of killing people. Only unregistered guns are lethal weapons. Most murderers at least take gun laws seriously.

Could you let us in on the umber of lives that have been saved by the piece of paper that says 'registered', oops, my mistake, i forgot that people with your opinion aren't serious people, you needn't try to answer.

Btw, the answer is 0, but that fact won't stop your ideology from trumping whatever measure of rationality you might have, it's disgusting how reality has so little bearing on people like you.

[jbg]

Could you let us in on the umber of lives that have been saved by the piece of paper that says 'registered', oops, my mistake, i forgot that people with your opinion aren't serious people, you needn't try to answer.

Btw, the answer is 0, but that fact won't stop your ideology from trumping whatever measure of rationality you might have, it's disgusting how reality has so little bearing on people like you.

I should have added a </sarcasm> tag.

[PIK]

Wait a second, are you talking about Trudeau, or Harper? Boy his dam has burst and it sure isn't pretty is it. Have you watched QP lately? Mind you one could certainly be forgiven for tuning out that junk that is going on there now. We have all heard mind numbing talking points that Harper and his people say over and over so it's not too important we can no longer hear over the laughter after he starts out yet again, "I've been perfectly clear....." and then is anything but. I think both Justin and Thomas have a lot of ears craving to hear something, anything that is not a cringing talking point.

I watched QP and after a couple of hours of the same question over and over , I quit watching.

[On Guard for Thee]

I watched QP and after a couple of hours of the same question over and over , I quit watching.

Perhaps if an answer was provided, at least once in a while, things could move on to the next question.

[PIK]

So when it comes to the north justin says what ever the scientists and the UN says is good enough for him. The boy can't make a desicion but just let someone else make it for him. Every gov we have had, stated the north is ours ,but now justin has changed that. Is he really serious about running?? Is his head even in the game. His love for the UN is scary.

Edited December 7, 2013 by PIK

[PIK]

So the boy is not showing up for work. I guess jack's warning about ,when you don't show up for work, don't expect a promotion, went over the kids head. Bring it on.

[Spiderfish]

So the boy is not showing up for work. I guess jack's warning about ,when you don't show up for work, don't expect a promotion, went over the kids head. Bring it on.

Yeah, but he has a good excuse... it's Harper's fault.

JT's defense:

"This government, and unfortunately this House of Commons, tends to be focused on attacks and insults much more than on the service that Canadians are expecting of their parliamentarians and their representatives. People are struggling. And they want people who are listening to them, who are proposing solutions."

Edited December 12, 2013 by Spiderfish

[waldo]

Yeah, but he has a good excuse... it's Harper's fault.

when Harper Conservatives refuse to answer questions in Question Period... when they purposely provide completely irrelevant and unrelated responses to questions asked, yes... that is Harper's fault.

All told, Trudeau skipped 22 Question Periods — or about two in three missed. This compares to 19 Question Periods missed by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, and 14 for NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair.

Since Oct. 16, Trudeau has missed four of 41 votes, as compared to three by Mulcair and 25 by Harper.

[cybercoma]

Trudeau is stupid. This was the straw that broke Ignatieff's back during the campaign. Canadians don't like people that don't show up to work.

[Human_Observer]

when Harper Conservatives refuse to answer questions in Question Period... when they purposely provide completely irrelevant and unrelated responses to questions asked, yes... that is Harper's fault.

Actually it make Harper a politician, no different from any other politician from any of the parties.

[On Guard for Thee]

Actually it make Harper a politician, no different from any other politician from any of the parties.

That is a very scary thought.

[PIK]

Trudeau is no different then any other youngster, lazy and does not feel he needs to follow the rules . And if he thinks the parliment is tough,how is he going to handle some of the leaders in this world. He will be giving up the farm and have no idea he did.