Hudson Jones Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) In order to maintain the Israeli occupation and colonization for this long, a cultural sickness has developed. It's no longer about survival. At the same time, more and more Israelis are speaking out about this sickness. Here is an example of some female Israeli soldiers who are able to admit the problems and can no longer stay silent as to what this sense of limitless power has created: Edited October 17, 2013 by Hudson Jones When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Hudson Jones Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Since Zionism promotes and practices the acceptance of human rights violations and since those who are committing them have impunity after committing their crimes, there is almost no limit in how far Israeli soldiers will go in their vile treatment of Palestinians: Edited October 25, 2013 by Hudson Jones When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Topaz Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 I bet ANY soldiers from ANY country,especially in the last two wars, since 9/11, has the same feelings and probably helped to do some unforgettable acts, by some of the medications they are put on for depression etc.
DogOnPorch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Meanwhile...in Syria... ...but, yeah...check point procedure is far more horrible. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Bonam Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 I didn't watch the videos in their entirety, but they look like just two random girls being interviewed. Who is to say that they are who the videos claim they are? Typical Hudson to take completely unverified accusations and present them as fact.
bud Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) bonam: these videos are from breakingthesilence.org. there are hundreds of these videos. not just from female israeli soldiers, but also male soldiers. are you willing to watch the whole video, accept them and talk about the information they are giving? Edited October 16, 2013 by bud http://whoprofits.org/
PIK Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 She is cute. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
GostHacked Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Meanwhile...in Syria... ...but, yeah...check point procedure is far more horrible. You should see the videos of the Rebels executing two children for not joining the uprisings against Assad.
DogOnPorch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 You should see the videos of the Rebels executing two children for not joining the uprisings against Assad. Why? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 bonam: these videos are from breakingthesilence.org. there are hundreds of these videos. not just from female israeli soldiers, but also male soldiers. are you willing to watch the whole video, accept them and talk about the information they are giving? Good gravy. That's like you saying: "Trust me." Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Why? Why not? You think bad things are happening only on one side? Really? I don't want to project or twist your words, so I'll wait for your response.
DogOnPorch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Why not? You think bad things are happening only on one side? Really? I don't want to project or twist your words, so I'll wait for your response. Don't act like I root for a particular side in the Syrian Civil War. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Don't act like I root for a particular side in the Syrian Civil War. I am glad we have that clarification. If you still believe it is a civil war, or ever was one to begin with. Edited October 16, 2013 by GostHacked
Hudson Jones Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Posted October 16, 2013 Is SnoopyDoggyPorch trying to insinuate that breakingthesilence.org.il is lying and the soldiers giving the testimonies are lying? I don't understand this latest denial of the obvious. When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
DogOnPorch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 I am glad we have that clarification. If you still believe it is a civil war, or ever was one to begin with. It's a civil war. The point is that it is unimportant...to Hudson. Otherwise we'd be seeing endless threads on that little fellow with the ciggie. But, no...the pressing thing on Hudson's mind is how ROTTEN Israel treats their sworn enemies. I mean...isn't Israel using child soldiers and torturing folks with pocket knives (that was a gross vid...see that one?). Oh, and of course the BEHEADINGS...man, if you're into that stuff, Syria is Disneyland. There must be several "good ones" a day...all in beautiful high res thanks to today's (no doubt Zionist) technology. But another thread by Hudson on Israel is what's needed...lol. Come-on Hudson...the day is young. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Is SnoopyDoggyPorch trying to insinuate that breakingthesilence.org.il is lying and the soldiers giving the testimonies are lying? I don't understand this latest denial of the obvious. Awwwwwwwww....poor guy; we all know you have an agenda. That couldn't POSSIBLY get in the way of "the truth". Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Rue Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 bonam: these videos are from breakingthesilence.org. there are hundreds of these videos. not just from female israeli soldiers, but also male soldiers. are you willing to watch the whole video, accept them and talk about the information they are giving? Then what. Will you dip him in fudge and save him?
Rue Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) In order to maintain the Israeli occupation and colonization for this long, a cultural sickness has developed. It's no longer about survival. At the same time, more and more Israelis are speaking out about this sickness. Here is an example of some female Israeli soldiers who are able to admit the problems and can no longer stay silent as to what this sense of limitless power has created: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyfkz8TcRCs That's the best you have? These comments and discussions have been going on since the 1967 war by Israeli soldiers and you act as if the sentiments expressed by this young woman are a disease...a sound bite to be removed from its actual context to be used by you? You have zero credibility using her comments and I will state why. You came on this forum referring to Zionism as a cancer needing to be wiped out. That necessarily means you want that young woman, you now quote to be wiped out. You on the one hand call for her to be murdered, but then on the other hand have no problem misappropriating her words and her humane qualities for your anti Israel agenda. Do you know who it is you quote? She is the very real face of Zionism you deny. She is the typical Israeli as I and others have stated over and over again in response to the black and white diatribe you engage in as Hudson-Bud using couched references to suggest all Israelis are to be wiped and who you accuse of having no humanity. I know many just like her. They did not ask to be an occupying force. They do not want to engage in police action against civilians and you HudsonBudson do not get to use their words or speak as if you are one of them or know them because she and countless others unlike you want peace. They speak out so Palestinians can hear them and reach out to them precisely to give up terrorism and embrace them as fellow humans. They are trying to undo the image of being demons. No soldier asks to be a demon HudsonBud, something you accused all Israelis and this young woman of being. So you do not get to speak for her or use her words for this young woman unlike you does not ask Israel be violently dismantled like you do. She calls for compassion and understanding-something you now ridicule by exploiting her words for peace and referring to them as being a mental illness. Make no mistake. She is not your mouthpiece or dupe. She is and could be my daughter and believe me Bud you mistake her compassion with a weakness you think you can exploit. It is that very compassion that gives her strength and it is something you will never understand and will follow you to your grave. You try use her words but do not understand them at all. Her words will get out to Palestinians despite your efforts to cinite hatred against ehr and Israelis. For people like you whose clear agenda has been established on this forum to promote the views of Hamas and Hezbollah I say this-that very young woman you try exploit...the voices of the other IDF who break the silence you and Bud try misappropriate express sentiments that are the source of the very hope and strength she and all Israelis and supporters like me will call upon when it comes to defending the innocent whether they be Palestinian or Israeli and assure that peace prevails as I have repeated many times on this forum. The compassion you attempt to exploit is at the very heart of Zionism-it is the belief that we will not find ourselves as Jews until we can welcome the day when we can live compassionately with others who are not Jewish. The very qualities this young woman shows are what Zionism stands for and has always stood for and it spits in your face and contradicts everything you have said about Zionism. Edited October 16, 2013 by Rue
Guest American Woman Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 ....we all know you have an agenda. That couldn't POSSIBLY get in the way of "the truth". That's the bottom line. They do have an agenda. And what they say certainly hasn't been proven true.
DogOnPorch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 That's the bottom line. They do have an agenda. And what they say certainly hasn't been proven true. I'm sure those young ladies saw what they saw...but...so what? This isn't some normal border crossing. It would have been akin to getting mad crossing Check-point Charlie. Guy 1: Those Russian fellows were RUDE. Guy 2: ...and THREATENING! Guy 1: I'm writing my MP. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 People don't always see the exact same thing the same way. And they don't always recall everything exactly the way it was. It's why eyewitnesses will have different stories and why eyewitnesses aren't a sure conviction in court.
DogOnPorch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 People don't always see the exact same thing the same way. And they don't always recall everything exactly the way it was. It's why eyewitnesses will have different stories and why eyewitnesses aren't a sure conviction in court. I agree...but my other point stands. This border is hard to cross for a reason Hudson and bud are unlikely to admit to. So-called 'moderates'. Fatah's Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 I agree...but my other point stands. This border is hard to cross for a reason Hudson and bud are unlikely to admit to. So-called 'moderates'. Fatah's Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. Oh, I'm not disagreeing with what you said at all. I'm just adding that there are also other reasons that we shouldn't just take what they have to say at face value, without question.
DogOnPorch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Oh, I'm not disagreeing with what you said at all. I'm just adding that there are also other reasons that we shouldn't just take what they have to say at face value, without question. Certainly. That these young ladies would PARTICIPATE in such a thing says they ALSO have an agenda. They didn't accidentally end up on this organization's cameras. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Hudson Jones Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) The propagandists are here in full force. Nothing to see here folks. It's all made up. It's all fake. So are these samples of daily incidents that go on in the occupied territories: It gets really fake around 2:15. Edited October 16, 2013 by Hudson Jones When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
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