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  What is the real reason behind the invasion of IRAQ? 

Good question. I suspect we'll never know the answer. But I think it's safe to say that Bush has never given us a truthful answer to that question. After all, if you've told the truth first time around, then you don't need to change your reason/excuse on a regular basis.

But take note that during his address to the UN.........

Bush made only one passing reference to weapons of mass destruction. Instead, he portrayed the toppling of Saddam Hussein as part of the global battle for human rights and freedom.

.....which certainly was not the original (WMD's) reason, or the second (Harboring terrorists) reason, or the third, fourth...... and so on ad nauseum.

Why does Bush feel that he is allowed to rise above international law to launch this war? 

....while using UN resolutions as justification???

Well, when you consider that by using the UN resolutions to justify his war, which he lauched WITHOUT UN approval, and AGAINST the specific wishes of the security council, well, I guess it could be argued that he's a hypocrit.

It's kind of like seeing a jaywalker, and beating him up because he broke the law. Neither act is legal, but by breaking the law to punish someone else for breaking the law, you've invalidated your own point.

And then he wonders why the UN doesn't like him and doesn't want to help him rebuild in Iraq.

Personally, I don't like cleaning up messes made by others, and I don't expect them to clean up mine.

Hypocrisy in all its glory.

Doesn't this make the US the biggest rogue nation in the world? 

Well, let's see now, attacked a country without direct provocation.

Attacked without UN approval.

Arguably, broke international law in doing so.

You make a pretty good case.

But hey, it ain't an illegal war, after all, congress approved of it :lol:

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What is the real reason behind the invasion of IRAQ?
Whomever controls over 50% of supply controls the price. With (arguably) the largest reserve in the ground being in Iraq, and with the House of Saud already being on close terms with the Bush family, the linch-pin to controlling world pricing is controlling the oil in Iraq. Sure, the US gets oil from Venezuela and Canada and internally, but the price per barrel is set by OPEC, who, as of now, control the majority of production and therefore the price. Soon it will not be that way, and Iraq will be the major player, as Saudi Arabia is now.

Further, Iraq had deals with TotalFinaElf of France, and now it is Halliburton. Iraq was going to go as far as only accepting the Euro, not the US dollar, and it would have precariously, and further, devalued the US greenback.

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Yes and Bush blames individual young soldiers for the torturing of prisons>

U.S.: Did President Bush Order Torture?

White House Must Explain “Executive Order” Cited in FBI E-Mail

An e-mail to senior FBI officials released yesterday under a Freedom of Information Act request repeatedly referred to an Executive Order that permitted military interrogators in Iraq to place detainees in painful stress positions, impose sensory deprivation through the use of hoods, intimidate them with military dogs and use other coercive methods.

December 21, 2004    Press

This is from Human rights watch

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I'm just waiting for you guys to figure out a way to blame Bush for the Tsunamis in Asia. Hey Black Dog, how bout that recent tape of Bin Laden calling Zarqawi Iraq's Al Quida chief?

We don't have to invent thing that Bush is to blame for. I think he has done enough damage to world peace all on his own ( under Cheney's strings)

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I'm just waiting for you guys to figure out a way to blame Bush for the Tsunamis in Asia. Hey Black Dog, how bout that recent tape of Bin Laden calling Zarqawi Iraq's Al Quida chief?

We don't have to invent thing that Bush is to blame for. I think he has done enough damage to world peace all on his own ( under Cheney's strings)

LOL, isn't under Rumsfeld's strings? no wait Rove's strings... :lol: no... the fundamentalist Christian's strings... :lol:

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Dear I miss Reagan,

LOL, isn't under Rumsfeld's strings? no wait Rove's strings...  no... the fundamentalist Christian's strings... 
How about 'daddy's' strings? After all, G.H.W. Bush was the man controlling everyone's favorite marionette, Ronald Reagan. Further, Bush Sr. was 'pulling strings' since before his days as CIA chief under Ford. Then he started turning on his friends, such as Noriega, and got mixed up with that Bin Laden family, what a mess.

Further, what Rove did (or did by authorizing) regarding the wife of a respected ambassador of the US, was absolutely and utterly beneath contempt.

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Oh yes how could I forget H.W. or "the Godfather" LOL. The man responsible for Bush's Harvard and Yale education and somehow getting him out of the National Guard LOL. What about Laura Bush, was it you who was slandering her on here? I think it might make you feel better if you jumped up and down and shouted "I hate him, I hate him, I hate him" It might get out some of that blind rage.

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Dear I miss Reagan,

What about Laura Bush, was it you who was slandering her on here? I think it might make you feel better if you jumped up and down and shouted "I hate him, I hate him, I hate him" It might get out some of that blind rage.
I have never written a word about Laura Bush.

I have my eyes open, and am not full of rage, only cynicism and a healthy dose of pragmatism. I am also proud that I have never posted childish drivel here, and usually try not to respond to it when I see it.

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I'm just waiting for you guys to figure out a way to blame Bush for the Tsunamis in Asia. Hey Black Dog, how bout that recent tape of Bin Laden calling Zarqawi Iraq's Al Quida chief?

We don't have to invent thing that Bush is to blame for. I think he has done enough damage to world peace all on his own ( under Cheney's strings)

LOL, isn't under Rumsfeld's strings? no wait Rove's strings... :lol: no... the fundamentalist Christian's strings... :lol:

Good point. It does, after all, take more than one string to properly operate a puppet ;)

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It might get out some of that blind rage.

Our rage is unfortunately not blind but your loyalty to Bush after all the lies and bs is "blind loyalty" Even his own people; are leaving in droves and admitting that the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with WMD, terrorists; nor has it made the USA more secure from terrorist attacks.

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It might get out some of that blind rage.

Our rage is unfortunately not blind but your loyalty to Bush after all the lies and bs is "blind loyalty" Even his own people; are leaving in droves and admitting that the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with WMD, terrorists; nor has it made the USA more secure from terrorist attacks.

People are leaving in "droves" are they? Let's have a reference for that little tidbit. Interesting how out-migration from Canada to the US out numbers the opposite 5-1. Not even considering percentages comparing the population numbers. No it would appear that the USA is a more desirable place to be, even with Bush as president.

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I was referring to his top level persons who are resigning. There are many American who are considering leaving the USA; I would prefer that they stay and fight to return their country to credibility and trust worthiness.

The USA needs to return to a country that abides by international laws. One that respects the Geneva Conventions. The torture approval came from the white house; even looking into out sourcing torture to skirt the laws. Keeping prisoners in Cuba to avoid direct failure to obey USA or international laws. Prosecuting some young soldiers to take the heat for this torture is BS and using them as scapegoats.

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IMR, perhaps you should join those that are leaving Canada to go live in Bush Co.'s Christian Conservative Utopia? Have you considered it?

Talk about a loaded question. Well son, like I've stated before, I like Alberta. I have lived in the USA and loved it. However, there are raging liberals there to deal with as well. Alberta is more conservative than the blue states. Believe it or not I believe in many policies claimed as liberal. I like gun control (not the registry), I like public health care, I support effective and logical environmentalism, I support compassionate programs for helping the poor. I just don't like liberals and their hypocrisy. In short my family is here, and for me that is important. I suppose when the time comes that MS and Ceasar types have their way and raise my taxes, enforce state education of my pre-school children, outlaw religion, and shove the rest of their socialist agenda down my throat, I'll leave and take my skills and my money with me. Until then I'll stay and enjoy this wonderful conservative island of prosperity.

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One skill you should brush up on is your reading comprehension. Focus on exclamation marks at first. They express astonishment at a revelation of something not suspected or can be better than an emoticon for showing irony. That is, to the accomplished reader!

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MS and Ceasar types have their way and raise my taxes, enforce state education of my pre-school children, outlaw religion, and shove the rest of their socialist agenda down my throat, I'll leave and take my skills and my money with me. Until then I'll stay and enjoy this wonderful conservative island of prosperity.

Better improve your comprehension skills. Don't make me something I am not. You support a party that is against everything you claim to be for. All you seem to care about is lowering your taxes . Better that YOU hould have had some of that enforced state education.

I support no party exclusively but under Harper: I do oppose the Conservatives and their agendas.

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