jbg Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Happy Dominion Day 7/1/1867! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 WOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Thanks neighbour. But it's Canada Day around these parts now, so I hear We could arguably still be called a Dominion for all I know, but I would argue not since we have no legal/constitutional dependency on Britain.. Have a safe & happy 4th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Thanks for thinking of us, jb Hope the fourth is a good one for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 WOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Thanks neighbour. But it's Canada Day around these parts now, so I hear We could arguably still be called a Dominion for all I know, but I would argue not since we have no legal/constitutional dependency on Britain.. Have a safe & happy 4th! I do not go for the Trudeaupian nonsense of shirking Canada's great history so that it is just another gray, second-tier state. Canada is better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 We could arguably still be called a Dominion for all I know, but I would argue not since we have no legal/constitutional dependency on Britain.. That concept of a Dominion died in 1926. Regardless, there are still extant legal documents (post-1926) referring to Canada as a Dominion. That doesn't make the holiday any less Canada Day, though. It is named such by Act of Parliament (passed as deviously as it was...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 That concept of a Dominion died in 1926. Regardless, there are still extant legal documents (post-1926) referring to Canada as a Dominion. That doesn't make the holiday any less Canada Day, though. It is named such by Act of Parliament (passed as deviously as it wDas...). Do you mean 1931? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 That concept of a Dominion died in 1926. Regardless, there are still extant legal documents (post-1926) referring to Canada as a Dominion. That doesn't make the holiday any less Canada Day, though. It is named such by Act of Parliament (passed as deviously as it was...). Passed late at night by a few ignorant MPs who had no idea what a Dominion was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 We lost our Dominions in Winnipeg in the 1980s. I think IGA took it over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I tuned in to the national event and noticed that the Tories had their BLUE on the stage. It didn't look right with the blue, more like the USA, which is more recognizable than the Conservative logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 We lost our Dominions in Winnipeg in the 1980s. I think IGA took it over. A&P bought Dominion, then sold it off in pieces to Metro, Safeway, and Loblaws. A lot of the stores closed in the process, including Winnipeg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I do not go for the Trudeaupian nonsense of shirking Canada's great history so that it is just another gray, second-tier state. Canada is better than that. Explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Do you mean 1931? No, I mean 1926: Balfour Declaration. Of course, it wasn't given legal effect until the Statute of Westminster 1931. But, regardless, the concept of what a Dominion was changed in the Imperial Conference of 1926. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Passed late at night by a few ignorant MPs who had no idea what a Dominion was. Late on a Friday, with less than a quorum in the House of Commons. It met some resistance in the Senate, but, obviously, was ultimately passed. "Canada Day" isn't the most imaginitive name for a national holiday; it's pretty absent any historical richness, unlike Bastille Day or Independence Day. I don't hate it; but something like Confederation Day might've been better. (As a side, one would think Statute of Westminster Day (which exists and is observed, very quietly, in Canada) would be more pronounced in our calendar, since it is, more techniclly, our independence day. Confederation was just the union of three colonies out of many then in British North America.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I tuned in to the national event and noticed that the Tories had their BLUE on the stage. It didn't look right with the blue, more like the USA, which is more recognizable than the Conservative logo. Yeah, just like that conspiratorial change of the aircraft livery to Royal Canadian Air Force Conservative Party colours. Honestly, it's a little refreshing to see something other than red and white; with everyone in red and white, a backdrop of different colours is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted July 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 I do not go for the Trudeaupian nonsense of shirking Canada's great history so that it is just another gray, second-tier state. Canada is better than that.Explain. The royal tradition, for better or worse, was deeply enmeshed in Canada's identity. The former "Royal" designation of the various armed services, "G-d Save the Queen" and the changing of the guard scratches the surface but provided badly needed color. Canada was the country of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The concept of "fighting for the King (or Queen)" put Canada on the right side of history and morality for all of its wars, except of course 1774-83 and 1812-14. Canada stood for excellence in government, invention and medicine. Enter Trudeau. His rabid desire to dis-Anglicize the country robbed it of much but not all of its color despite his best efforts. A welfare state with a bloated government and deficit replaced a lean, efficient government. The emphasis was on bi-bilingualism and multiculturalism, not excellence. Making the French, and incompatible refugees from around the world has diminished, but not destroyed, a great country. Truly a sad result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 . Making the French, and incompatible refugees from around the world has diminished, but not destroyed, a great country. Truly a sad result. Tell Forbes they are crazy then. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/canada-world-best-reputation-poll-054816450.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Enter Trudeau. His rabid desire to dis-Anglicize the country robbed it of much but not all of its color despite his best efforts. A welfare state with a bloated government and deficit replaced a lean, efficient government. The emphasis was on bi-bilingualism and multiculturalism, not excellence. Making the French, and incompatible refugees from around the world has diminished, but not destroyed, a great country. I won't argue that Pearson (it started with him), Trudeau, and subsequent Liberals didn't engage in a deliberate purge of certain British-related or -rooted aspects of Canada's culture and history (the Crown, but not parliament; the Red Ensign, but not the English language; the Royal Canadian Air Force, but not Common Law; the Royal Mail, but not the public school system) while hypocritically leaving anything French-related alone, if not elevated to near-celebratory status. But, it's unfair to the descendants of Canada's French settlers to say their presence and that of their language and culture diminishes Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 But, it's unfair to the descendants of Canada's French settlers to say their presence and that of their language and culture diminishes Canada. I totally agree. In fact, I was listening to a Canadian folk album (digitalized) in my car today. It was recorded in 1955, and had a leavening of a few French songs. I think that pre-Pearson Canadian culture incorporated both languages and cultures quite well. After they started to drum British roots out no so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Tell Forbes they are crazy then. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/canada-world-best-reputation-poll-054816450.html I guess you would agree then that the Conservatives have been good for Canada's reputation as the article implies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 I totally agree. In fact, I was listening to a Canadian folk album (digitalized) in my car today. It was recorded in 1955, and had a leavening of a few French songs. I think that pre-Pearson Canadian culture incorporated both languages and cultures quite well. After they started to drum British roots out no so well. Well, in fairness to Pearson and Trudeau (I'm being very fair lately), the Quiet Revolution was something that wasn't their fault but they had to deal with. Though, I know that Pearson was miffed before that at Egyptians' refual to trust Canada or its soldiers during the Suez Crisis because the Canadian flag then had a Union Jack in the fly. That triggered the eventual great flag debate; though, it doesn't explain the animosity towards the Canadian monarchy. Perhaps he was worried that, in some future conflict between Peru and Jamaica, the Peruvians would think Canada was under the command of the Jamaicans, what with them having the same woman as queen and all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Well, in fairness to Pearson and Trudeau (I'm being very fair lately), the Quiet Revolution was something that wasn't their fault but they had to deal with. Though, I know that Pearson was miffed before that at Egyptians' refual to trust Canada or its soldiers during the Suez Crisis because the Canadian flag then had a Union Jack in the fly. That triggered the eventual great flag debate; though, it doesn't explain the animosity towards the Canadian monarchy. Perhaps he was worried that, in some future conflict between Peru and Jamaica, the Peruvians would think Canada was under the command of the Jamaicans, what with them having the same woman as queen and all... I laughed. It was funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted July 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Perhaps he was worried that, in some future conflict between Peru and Jamaica, the Peruvians would think Canada was under the command of the Jamaicans, what with them having the same woman as queen and all... I hear Barbados' and Australia's monarch's aren't getting along too well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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