jbg Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 Happy Dominion Day 7/1/1867! Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Moonlight Graham Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 WOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Thanks neighbour. But it's Canada Day around these parts now, so I hear We could arguably still be called a Dominion for all I know, but I would argue not since we have no legal/constitutional dependency on Britain.. Have a safe & happy 4th! Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Pliny Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 Thanks for thinking of us, jb Hope the fourth is a good one for you! Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
jbg Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Posted July 2, 2013 WOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Thanks neighbour. But it's Canada Day around these parts now, so I hear We could arguably still be called a Dominion for all I know, but I would argue not since we have no legal/constitutional dependency on Britain.. Have a safe & happy 4th! I do not go for the Trudeaupian nonsense of shirking Canada's great history so that it is just another gray, second-tier state. Canada is better than that. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
g_bambino Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 We could arguably still be called a Dominion for all I know, but I would argue not since we have no legal/constitutional dependency on Britain.. That concept of a Dominion died in 1926. Regardless, there are still extant legal documents (post-1926) referring to Canada as a Dominion. That doesn't make the holiday any less Canada Day, though. It is named such by Act of Parliament (passed as deviously as it was...). Quote
jbg Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Posted July 2, 2013 That concept of a Dominion died in 1926. Regardless, there are still extant legal documents (post-1926) referring to Canada as a Dominion. That doesn't make the holiday any less Canada Day, though. It is named such by Act of Parliament (passed as deviously as it wDas...). Do you mean 1931? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Scotty Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 That concept of a Dominion died in 1926. Regardless, there are still extant legal documents (post-1926) referring to Canada as a Dominion. That doesn't make the holiday any less Canada Day, though. It is named such by Act of Parliament (passed as deviously as it was...). Passed late at night by a few ignorant MPs who had no idea what a Dominion was. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
BubberMiley Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 We lost our Dominions in Winnipeg in the 1980s. I think IGA took it over. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Topaz Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 I tuned in to the national event and noticed that the Tories had their BLUE on the stage. It didn't look right with the blue, more like the USA, which is more recognizable than the Conservative logo. Quote
Bryan Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 We lost our Dominions in Winnipeg in the 1980s. I think IGA took it over. A&P bought Dominion, then sold it off in pieces to Metro, Safeway, and Loblaws. A lot of the stores closed in the process, including Winnipeg. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 I do not go for the Trudeaupian nonsense of shirking Canada's great history so that it is just another gray, second-tier state. Canada is better than that. Explain. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
g_bambino Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 Do you mean 1931? No, I mean 1926: Balfour Declaration. Of course, it wasn't given legal effect until the Statute of Westminster 1931. But, regardless, the concept of what a Dominion was changed in the Imperial Conference of 1926. Quote
g_bambino Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 Passed late at night by a few ignorant MPs who had no idea what a Dominion was. Late on a Friday, with less than a quorum in the House of Commons. It met some resistance in the Senate, but, obviously, was ultimately passed. "Canada Day" isn't the most imaginitive name for a national holiday; it's pretty absent any historical richness, unlike Bastille Day or Independence Day. I don't hate it; but something like Confederation Day might've been better. (As a side, one would think Statute of Westminster Day (which exists and is observed, very quietly, in Canada) would be more pronounced in our calendar, since it is, more techniclly, our independence day. Confederation was just the union of three colonies out of many then in British North America.) Quote
g_bambino Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 I tuned in to the national event and noticed that the Tories had their BLUE on the stage. It didn't look right with the blue, more like the USA, which is more recognizable than the Conservative logo. Yeah, just like that conspiratorial change of the aircraft livery to Royal Canadian Air Force Conservative Party colours. Honestly, it's a little refreshing to see something other than red and white; with everyone in red and white, a backdrop of different colours is needed. Quote
jbg Posted July 4, 2013 Author Report Posted July 4, 2013 I do not go for the Trudeaupian nonsense of shirking Canada's great history so that it is just another gray, second-tier state. Canada is better than that.Explain. The royal tradition, for better or worse, was deeply enmeshed in Canada's identity. The former "Royal" designation of the various armed services, "G-d Save the Queen" and the changing of the guard scratches the surface but provided badly needed color. Canada was the country of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The concept of "fighting for the King (or Queen)" put Canada on the right side of history and morality for all of its wars, except of course 1774-83 and 1812-14. Canada stood for excellence in government, invention and medicine. Enter Trudeau. His rabid desire to dis-Anglicize the country robbed it of much but not all of its color despite his best efforts. A welfare state with a bloated government and deficit replaced a lean, efficient government. The emphasis was on bi-bilingualism and multiculturalism, not excellence. Making the French, and incompatible refugees from around the world has diminished, but not destroyed, a great country. Truly a sad result. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
guyser Posted July 4, 2013 Report Posted July 4, 2013 . Making the French, and incompatible refugees from around the world has diminished, but not destroyed, a great country. Truly a sad result. Tell Forbes they are crazy then. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/canada-world-best-reputation-poll-054816450.html Quote
g_bambino Posted July 4, 2013 Report Posted July 4, 2013 Enter Trudeau. His rabid desire to dis-Anglicize the country robbed it of much but not all of its color despite his best efforts. A welfare state with a bloated government and deficit replaced a lean, efficient government. The emphasis was on bi-bilingualism and multiculturalism, not excellence. Making the French, and incompatible refugees from around the world has diminished, but not destroyed, a great country. I won't argue that Pearson (it started with him), Trudeau, and subsequent Liberals didn't engage in a deliberate purge of certain British-related or -rooted aspects of Canada's culture and history (the Crown, but not parliament; the Red Ensign, but not the English language; the Royal Canadian Air Force, but not Common Law; the Royal Mail, but not the public school system) while hypocritically leaving anything French-related alone, if not elevated to near-celebratory status. But, it's unfair to the descendants of Canada's French settlers to say their presence and that of their language and culture diminishes Canada. Quote
jbg Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Posted July 5, 2013 But, it's unfair to the descendants of Canada's French settlers to say their presence and that of their language and culture diminishes Canada. I totally agree. In fact, I was listening to a Canadian folk album (digitalized) in my car today. It was recorded in 1955, and had a leavening of a few French songs. I think that pre-Pearson Canadian culture incorporated both languages and cultures quite well. After they started to drum British roots out no so well. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Posted July 5, 2013 Tell Forbes they are crazy then. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/canada-world-best-reputation-poll-054816450.html I guess you would agree then that the Conservatives have been good for Canada's reputation as the article implies. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
g_bambino Posted July 5, 2013 Report Posted July 5, 2013 I totally agree. In fact, I was listening to a Canadian folk album (digitalized) in my car today. It was recorded in 1955, and had a leavening of a few French songs. I think that pre-Pearson Canadian culture incorporated both languages and cultures quite well. After they started to drum British roots out no so well. Well, in fairness to Pearson and Trudeau (I'm being very fair lately), the Quiet Revolution was something that wasn't their fault but they had to deal with. Though, I know that Pearson was miffed before that at Egyptians' refual to trust Canada or its soldiers during the Suez Crisis because the Canadian flag then had a Union Jack in the fly. That triggered the eventual great flag debate; though, it doesn't explain the animosity towards the Canadian monarchy. Perhaps he was worried that, in some future conflict between Peru and Jamaica, the Peruvians would think Canada was under the command of the Jamaicans, what with them having the same woman as queen and all... Quote
Pliny Posted July 6, 2013 Report Posted July 6, 2013 Well, in fairness to Pearson and Trudeau (I'm being very fair lately), the Quiet Revolution was something that wasn't their fault but they had to deal with. Though, I know that Pearson was miffed before that at Egyptians' refual to trust Canada or its soldiers during the Suez Crisis because the Canadian flag then had a Union Jack in the fly. That triggered the eventual great flag debate; though, it doesn't explain the animosity towards the Canadian monarchy. Perhaps he was worried that, in some future conflict between Peru and Jamaica, the Peruvians would think Canada was under the command of the Jamaicans, what with them having the same woman as queen and all... I laughed. It was funny. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
jbg Posted July 19, 2013 Author Report Posted July 19, 2013 Perhaps he was worried that, in some future conflict between Peru and Jamaica, the Peruvians would think Canada was under the command of the Jamaicans, what with them having the same woman as queen and all... I hear Barbados' and Australia's monarch's aren't getting along too well. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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