The_Squid Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Relativity says the experience can be completely different, for each observer. The experience of what? Quote
GostHacked Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 The experience of what? The experience of anything. You and I may go see a band playing live. My experience compared to yours at the same venue can and will be different. Quote
The_Squid Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 The experience of anything. You and I may go see a band playing live. My experience compared to yours at the same venue can and will be different. That is not what the theory of relativity describes at all! Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 The experience of what? The experience of anything. You and I may go see a band playing live. My experience compared to yours at the same venue can and will be different. Especially different than my experience, cause I don't go to see live bands. Quote
Canuckistani Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 That is not what the theory of relativity describes at all! Sure it does. You can't both occupy exactly the same space, so each of you will, relativistically speaking see something different. And that assumes that your two brains would see the same thing if you stood in the same space - not so, not by a mile. We see in part what we expect to see, each of our sensory organs function slightly differently, and our brains function very differently. Quote
betsy Posted January 4, 2013 Author Report Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Okay, let me then bring that question back: Canuckstani:Do I have it right Betsy that you're arguing that nothing exists without man, but the bible will continue to exist long after man is gone? This is what I said: betsy: How do you know the Bible would not exist without man? Have you observed that? Unless the planet is reduced to nothing....I'd say the Bible will still exist, long after man is gone! Clearly I'm not saying that nothing exists without man. It gets a bit confusing because you seem to be piggybacking on Manny - it's not working for you Of course it wouldn't work for me....because they're not the same. Edited January 4, 2013 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted January 4, 2013 Author Report Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Simpler would be for you to just answer the question. I'll expand on that. Here's my statement again: betsy: How do you know the Bible would not exist without man? Have you observed that? Unless the planet is reduced to nothing....I'd say the Bible will still exist, long after man is gone! Also, if there's no man, what's the point of the bible, and who would read it? Evolved chimps? Naw, silly! Evolved chimps my foot! But somebody might....who knows? Read my statement again. And after you've re-read it.....I'd like you to go read the OP of this topic. There's the simple connection! You know what I mean now? You see where I was going with that? Edited January 4, 2013 by betsy Quote
The_Squid Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Sure it does. You can't both occupy exactly the same space, so each of you will, relativistically speaking see something different. And that assumes that your two brains would see the same thing if you stood in the same space - not so, not by a mile. We see in part what we expect to see, each of our sensory organs function slightly differently, and our brains function very differently. The theory of relativity is physics, not philosophy. It doesn't discuss the nature of human's sensory organs and how they are different between individuals. People like to use scientific sounding theories that are sort of similar to their actual scientific counterparts to lend credence to their philosophies but, in reality, they are not related in the least. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) That is not what the theory of relativity describes at all! What you are getting at is different than the theory of relativity. You were talking about wave collapse theory. Especially different than my experience, cause I don't go to see live bands. You should. Some bands put on some great shows. Edited January 4, 2013 by GostHacked Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 You should. Some bands put on some great shows. That matters only if you feel the need to be entertained. Quote
Canuckistani Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 That matters only if you feel the need to be entertained. What are you on this forum for if not entertainment? Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Communicating and sharing ideas. Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 How do you know gravity will still exist without man? Have you observed that? Good god, I hope you're not seriously asking that.... Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
cybercoma Posted January 5, 2013 Report Posted January 5, 2013 Let's abandon peer review and modern science for what priests tell us what the bible says about science. Much better! lol. Welcome back 14th century! Good times. Quote
cybercoma Posted January 5, 2013 Report Posted January 5, 2013 This thread is hilarious. It's like watching kids who don't know how to count past 10 trying to debate about long division. Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 5, 2013 Report Posted January 5, 2013 This thread is hilarious. It's like watching kids who don't know how to count past 10 trying to debate about long division. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
betsy Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Cybercoma:This thread is hilarious. It's like watching kids who don't know how to count past 10 trying to debate about long division. Sleipnir: <rolling with laughter> Ha-ha-ha! And it's funny to count the ironies that keep cropping up from the "oppositions!" The latest count being Cybercoma, having his jollies watching "children" debate the long division - and here I am laughing my head off with the irony, since most of the times he reminds me of a pesky child tugging at my hem for attention! And Sleipnir reminds me of the other "pesky child" - there's always the side-kick! Even among children! Edited January 5, 2013 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Posted January 5, 2013 This thread is hilarious. It's like watching kids who don't know how to count past 10 trying to debate about long division. It must be like watching cartoon re-runs, huh? Quote
cybercoma Posted January 5, 2013 Report Posted January 5, 2013 The latest count being Cybercoma, having his jollies watching "children" debate the long division - and here I am laughing my head off with the irony, since most of the times he reminds me of a pesky child tugging at my hem for attention! It must be like watching cartoon re-runs, huh? Two posts about me in a row. haha. And I'm the one begging for attention, eh? Quote
betsy Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Posted January 5, 2013 Two posts about me in a row. haha. And I'm the one begging for attention, eh? I'm in a generous mood, what can I say? Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 5, 2013 Report Posted January 5, 2013 The discussion wandered widely from the original post, and I hope betsy did not mind that. Sorry betsy! Quote
betsy Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Posted January 5, 2013 The discussion wandered widely from the original post, and I hope betsy did not mind that. Sorry betsy! It's okay. We're just waiting for the outcome of these explorations anyway, and maybe until a new update appears. Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 5, 2013 Report Posted January 5, 2013 It's okay. We're just waiting for the outcome of these explorations anyway, and maybe until a new update appears. Excellent, I look forward to that. Hope you will update us, Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 5, 2013 Report Posted January 5, 2013 It's okay. We're just waiting for the outcome of these explorations anyway, and maybe until a new update appears. What kind of updates are you expecting? Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
guyser Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 What kind of updates are you expecting? We'll be told they found a piece of wood up in the mountains. Then they'll tell they found a fossil close by. That should be enough for religious idiots to extrapolate....eureka !!.....Noahs Ark. And Jesus walked on water....of course most of us refer to it as ice, but lets not let pesky minor details interrupt the sermon. Quote
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