punked Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 Nice ad hominem. Yah it goes quite well with yours doesn't it? Quote
The_Squid Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 Apparently, Mr. Martin has sworn off twitter! Haha. I don't find a few bad words anything worth resigning over... That's silly. Quote
cybercoma Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 Considering that he called the funding "taxpayer-funded proselytization" why would anyone want him at their party. Without inviting the constituency's representative in Parliament, that's exactly what it is. Nothing more than campaigning with bribes. Quote
g_bambino Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) His representation is what got them their federal funding. It's parliamentarians that approve the budget. Okay; yes. But nobody has prevented Martin from casting his vote on any budget. Their lack of an invite is more than just impolite, as I mentioned above. It undermines Martin's position as the riding's representative in Ottawa. It gives the impression that people should go to the CPC if they want anything and that Pat Martin's presence in the House is meaningless. Mmmmmm..... Maaaaayybe. Martin has some sway on money going to his riding, but not on all of it. However, as I said, Martin's already proven himself to be quite an ass. I wouldn't invite him to my party if I knew he'd been saying about me what he says about the government and individuals in it. [ed.: sp, c/e] Edited December 21, 2012 by g_bambino Quote
cybercoma Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 Okay; yes. But nobody has prevented Martin from casting his vote on any budget.No but they tried to limit his ability to make propose amendments and have them each heard and considered. Mmmmmm..... Maaaaayybe. Martin has some sway on money going to his riding, but not on all of it. However, as I said, Martin's already proven himself to be quite an ass. I wouldn't invite him to my party if I knew he'd been saying about me what he says about the government and individuals in it. [ed.: sp, c/e] I don't disagree about him being unprofessional and an ass, but the things he says about the CPC are the things that made people pick him as their representative. Boohoo for the cabinet that they have to actually deal with the electorate's representatives, even the assholes. Quote
g_bambino Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 No but they tried to limit his ability to make propose amendments and have them each heard and considered. In parliament, maybe. But, that's a different matter altogether. I don't disagree about him being unprofessional and an ass, but the things he says about the CPC are the things that made people pick him as their representative. Boohoo for the cabinet that they have to actually deal with the electorate's representatives, even the assholes. Again: granted. But, why should the Conservatives provide him with a platform to do so? I'd be glad to see the government invite the local MP to an event held in that MP's riding, especially if that MP is a member of the opposition; it demonstrates a sense of collegiality; "I may disagree with you, but that does not mean we're enemies". Pat Martin, though, has never been the collegial type. Nor have many of the ministers in the present Cabinet. They're all just as bad as the other. So, it's no surprise Martin wasn't invited. I doubt he'd invite any minister of the Crown to any event he hosted in his riding. Quote
Big Guy Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 Personally, I find it refreshing that someone is “found out” actually expressing their opinion in terms that are understandable to all – no pre-filtering by political mandarins, no chance for “second thoughts’ of political correctness, no back peddling spin. Our representatives in Ottawa have been expressing themselves in this manner since Confederation and just up to the advent of instant communications. Even when exposed, there is no longer outrage, blushing from the weaker gender or a loss of a political career. Does that kind of language belong on the stage of democratic political banter – probably not. Is it a refreshing change from the orchestrated Kabuki performances in Ottawa – yes! Will we see more of it – probably, with the advent of new communication technologies. I look forward to some more “relaxed” and uncensored twitters from politicians after they have consumed a couple of bottles of Christmas cheer. I remember many years ago, a colleague had imbibed beyond reasonable capacity at a Christmas party and said a few things about fellow employees, things that were true but not complimentary. He did attempt to mend fences but this temporary alcohol fuelled lack of restraint caused him to have to take early retirement. One of the gifts (anonymously presented) at his retirement party was a framed section of a poem from Edward FitzGerald's translation of the Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám: The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it. Many people wish that they had reviewed that poem before hitting that send button. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
g_bambino Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 Personally, I find it refreshing that someone is “found out” actually expressing their opinion in terms that are understandable to all If that's what's necessary to be "understandable to all", I fear for the future of the human race. Quote
Boges Posted December 21, 2012 Author Report Posted December 21, 2012 I read that the infrastructure spending was mostly a provincial project. So why didn't the NDP Provincial government invite him? Quote
Merlin Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 Did the Liberals include the Tories in every decision made in a Tory held riding? Did the Liberals make sure the Tory Mp was on hand for every single spending announcement? I don't remember hearing about it myself. Hrm, seems to me that the Tories are held to a different set of rules then everyone else is...peculiar isn't it? Quote
scribblet Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 Without inviting the constituency's representative in Parliament, that's exactly what it is. Nothing more than campaigning with bribes. Nonsense, there was no campaigning involved nor any bribery, this was something that the City Council wanted and voted for.. The City Council vote allowed the group access to federal infrastructure stimulus funding, the majority of which comes from the provincial NDP, they are also contributing 2.6 million. It was after this vote that Martin came out swinging against the funding and the organization so it makes sense that he would not be invited. His rants and outbursts are irrational and considering his excoriation of the group in question he should have a clue as to why he wasn't invited. Actually, it would have fun to have him accept an invite to be on the same podium as the group which he shows utter and complete disdain for. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
guyser Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 Did the Liberals include the Tories in every decision made in a Tory held riding? Did the Liberals make sure the Tory Mp was on hand for every single spending announcement? I don't remember hearing about it myself. Hrm, seems to me that the Tories are held to a different set of rules then everyone else is...peculiar isn't it? Arent you wonderful.The first part of your post says 'did they...did they? " You answer 'no idea' Then magically decide that they didnt, thus a different set of standards. Quote
login Posted December 22, 2012 Report Posted December 22, 2012 http://www.thestar.c...ores-on-twitter WAHHHHHHH!!!!! The Governing Party won't let me share in the glory of infrastructure spending, let me call them all whores! If anyone in the CPC called anyone a "whore" I'm sure a Human Rights Tribunal would be contacted. In light of the libel suit against this clown, isn't it time the NDP consider him a liability at some point? isn't there a rule that libel doesn't occur when it is true? Quote
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