Prime Minister Harper confirms ‘no’ vote on Palestine at UN

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Your point? I’m speaking to Israel versus an Islamic State, be it Palestine/Gaza/West Bank or any other one……….As to Canada’s interests, I’ll ask the inverse, how will our interests in the region be strengthened by statehood?

Simply put, all this will do is further destabilize the region.

This could actually stabilize the region because Palestine would have statehood and they then have to play within a completely different rule set.

[GostHacked]

Since Canada is taking this side, I predict even more polarization among the players involved in this situation. Canada has clearly come out on one side of this conflict. We are no longer unbiased and a neutral player in this crisis.

The battle lines have been drawn.

[DogOnPorch]

This could actually stabilize the region because Palestine would have statehood and they then have to play within a completely different rule set.

Which rule-set does Hamas plan on using?

[GostHacked]

Which rule-set does Hamas plan on using?

Shhh, grown ups are talking.

[DogOnPorch]

Shhh, grown ups are talking.

Right...so...which rule-set does Hamas plan on using again?

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Right...so...which rule-set does Hamas plan on using again?

The ones where violent attacks on civilians can be taken to the ICC and then the leaders of such attacks can be tired on the world stage and no can stop it from happening. THATS SET OF RULES! Read a book. Seriously wars can be declared and lots of other things.

[DogOnPorch]

The ones where violent attacks on civilians can be taken to the ICC and then the leaders of such attacks can be tired on the world stage and no can stop it from happening. THATS SET OF RULES! Read a book. Seriously wars can be declared and lots of other things.

Oh...is Gaza getting it's 'freedom', too?

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Oh...is Gaza getting it's 'freedom', too?

What are you talking about? Gaza is part of the resolution yes. All parts of Pre war Palestine are united in the resolution. No wonder so many Conservatives are with Harper most of you don't even understand what is going on.

[GostHacked]

Oh...is Gaza getting it's 'freedom', too?

No they need to take their own freedom. I meant it worked for the Jews right?

[DogOnPorch]

No they need to take their own freedom. I meant it worked for the Jews right?

So...I ask again...adults...what rule-set is Hamas going to be using?

[GostHacked]

So...I ask again...adults...what rule-set is Hamas going to be using?

Go sit down. You obviously have no intention of genuine discussion here, so why bother posting?

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So...I ask again...adults...what rule-set is Hamas going to be using?

The same sets of rules every other STATE! But you don't give them statehood you can not apply those rules.

[DogOnPorch]

Go sit down. You obviously have no intention of genuine discussion here, so why bother posting?

Afraid to speak for Hamas, are you? Well, I don't blame you. Disagree with them and you'll end up as a streak on the pavement.

[DogOnPorch]

The same sets of rules every other STATE! But you don't give them statehood you can not apply those rules.

I'm confused here. So is Hamas getting their own state? I think 'no' is the answer to that question. So...I ask again...what rule-set is Hamas going to be using? GH brought up 'rule-sets'...not me. So chill.

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Afraid to speak for Hamas, are you? Well, I don't blame you. Disagree with them and you'll end up as a streak on the pavement.

Nope Hamas has committed to wanted the rules to apply to them as Israel. Which means going into Gaza and dragging their leaders in front of the ICC if they engage in acts against the convention. You don't know what you are talking about. I know you want me to be scared of some boogey man but I am not. Let the rules apply to all parties, give them statehood so the international community can help bring peace to the region.

[Hudson Jones]

Here is a stream of the event at UN: http://webtv.un.org/

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I'm confused here. So is Hamas getting their own state? I think 'no' is the answer to that question. So...I ask again...what rule-set is Hamas going to be using? GH brought up 'rule-sets'...not me. So chill.

NO the Palestine is made up of more then just Hamas only an idiot who doesn't know anything about the region would thinks this. While Hamas is the government in Gaza Palestine is made up of several regions the West Bank has a very moderate government and they are the ones advancing this motion. Although I promise you keep spitting in the moderates faces and Hamas will be the ones governing the whole region soon.

[DogOnPorch]

NO the Palestine is made up of more then just Hamas only an idiot who doesn't know anything about the region would thinks this. While Hamas is the government in Gaza Palestine is made up of several regions the West Bank has a very moderate government and they are the ones advancing this motion. Although I promise you keep spitting in the moderates faces and Hamas will be the ones governing the whole region soon.

lol...I'm well aware of the WB, thanks.

My point is that while the Nathan Hale and John Adams action is occurring in the WB, what's the "rule-set" regarding Hamas? None of you seem to want to venture into that territory. That's fine...I'm sure Hamas will be on their best behaviour...as always.

http://mepeace.org/video/hamas-members-execute-fatah

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lol...I'm well aware of the WB, thanks.

My point is that while the Nathan Hale and John Adams action is occurring in the WB, what's the "rule-set" regarding Hamas? None of you seem to want to venture into that territory. That's fine...I'm sure Hamas will be on their best behaviour...as always.

http://mepeace.org/v...s-execute-fatah

My point is if you give Palestine statehood Hamas all of a sudden have to abide by the ICC rules such as not using civilian shields and if they don't then Israel has every right to go into Gaza take them out and hand their leaders over to the ICC. YOU CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL YOU GIVE THEM THE RIGHTS you want to deprive them of. There is no problem here the solution to your the "problem" you offer is to the opposite of what you are for. It is a crazy argument.

[DogOnPorch]

My point is if you give Palestine statehood Hamas all of a sudden have to abide by the ICC rules such as not using civilian shields and if they don't then Israel has every right to go into Gaza take them out and hand their leaders over to the ICC. YOU CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL YOU GIVE THEM THE RIGHTS you want to deprive them of. There is no problem here the solution to your the "problem" you offer is to the opposite of what you are for. It is a crazy argument.

I'm sorry...but, you're living in a world of illusion with regards to Hamas. That video, for example, shows how well they get along with Fatah...let alone the evil Zionist Entity.

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I'm sorry...but, you're living in a world of illusion with regards to Hamas. That video, for example, shows how well they get along with Fatah...let alone the evil Zionist Entity.

And you are living in a world of illusion if you think the status quo is the solution.

[DogOnPorch]

And you are living in a world of illusion if you think the status quo is the solution.

Strawman...I never said any such thing.

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Strawman...I never said any such thing.

So what is your solution because it is easy to be against every solution and never have your own. That means you favor the status quo. I will await and when you give none it wont be a strawman any more.

[DogOnPorch]

So what is your solution because it is easy to be against every solution and never have your own. That means you favor the status quo. I will await and when you give none it wont be a strawman any more.

Good gravy...I've been asking this same question since post #78 and all you two have been doing is conducting attacks on my character.

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Good gravy...I've been asking this same question since post #78 and all you two have been doing is conducting attacks on my character.

No all you have been doing is playing the Hamas Boogey man card. What is solution? It is the status quo which clearly is not working and is not bringing a lasting peace.