DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Here's an hour long video.... Time signature and why it's pertinent to your argument??? She explains the basics of Islam. Takes an hour...I know that's a bit past some folk's attention span. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 I'd rather be in Tel Aviv than Tehran. You got that right...a no brainer. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 I imagine a pink vapour is the same in both towns. Quote
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Here's an hour long video.... Time signature and why it's pertinent to your argument??? That would required HAVING an argument... Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) I imagine a pink vapour is the same in both towns. Nah...a 1mt air burst makes a 15kt ground burst look like a lady finger fire cracker. Edited November 13, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 That would required HAVING an argument... My 'claim' which is Islam's claim is that the surest way to the highest form of Heaven is to die fighting in the name of Allah and the Prophet Mohammed. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 My 'claim' which is Islam's claim is that the surest way to the highest form of Heaven is to die fighting in the name of Allah and the Prophet Mohammed. Your claim is rendered rather laughable by the tiny number of suicide bombers compared to the billion muslims in the world. But your claim is even MORE laughable when you are talking about the Ayatollah. You see, its true that this religious justification IS used to convince some men and women to become suicide bombers. Its quite another thing to believe that a muslim world leader like Saddam Hussein, or Khomeini, or Prince Salman, or King Abdullah, or Makhdoom Shahbuddin, or King Hussein is going to do the same. All these people already live lives of incredible privilege, and if they wanted to bone 72 virgins, they would be delivered to their private quarters in under an hour. In the case of ali khamenei theres absolutely nothing at all to suggest that this is the case. Intelligence agencies describe him as a "rational actor" that is "consumed with the survival of his own regime". But go ahead and tell us DOP? Why arent all these Islamic Royals strapping on suicide vests to hasten their journey to heaven? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Your claim is rendered rather laughable by the tiny number of suicide bombers compared to the billion muslims in the world. But go ahead and tell us DOP? Why arent all these Islamic Royals strapping on suicide vests to hasten their journey to heaven? That's not what the video deals with. Getting to Heaven is not to be taken for granted in Islam as with the other two religions in question. If you're 'in the hole' sin wise or seeking to sit with the big cheeses in Heaven, you might indeed opt for the fast track to the top floor...especially if this is being pushed at the mosque as appropriate. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 It's good way for a woman to regain her lost honour too. To hear the men in her life tell it, anyway. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 It's good way for a woman to regain her lost honour too. To hear the men in her life tell it, anyway. Women go to Heaven, too...though apparently the majority go to Hell. According to Mohammed, anyways. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Your claim is rendered rather laughable by the tiny number of suicide bombers compared to the billion muslims in the world. Your claim is rendered laughable by the much, much tinier number of suicide bombers in the rest of the world. I left your laugh icon in there for emphasis. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) But...it's not quite the same heaven as the men's.... Dead Husband: Okay...I'm off to see my almond eyed virgins. Dead Wife: &^$& you. Edited November 13, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
sharkman Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Sure they do... They believe that when they die its time for eternal bliss. So back to your argument... why dont they all do what they can to hasten their entrance into heaven? Based on your flimsy logic, whey dont all believers in heaven work to hasten their ascention? Why doesnt every devout muslim in the world strap on a suicide vest and get some of that hot virgin ass ASAP? Simple... Its because your entirely line of reasoning is utterly bogus, and infantile. Wrong. Completely wrong. No where in the Bible is there standing orders to kill yourself and take out as many infidels as you can to get a reward of heaven. It's even one of the 10 commandments, and that was before the new testament dispensation, where Jesus said to love your enemies. BTW, tossing out insults is a tell. Also, involving yourself in any kind of suicide is taught to be a sin and an act which will not have you enter heaven. Muslims, on the other hand, have standing orders to kill for virgins. It's kind of sick, really. They are also taught to hate a certain race which is programed racism. On the question of leadership suicide vests, I can't read minds, but one theory is that they're not as true in the believing department on that one. They'd rather use cannon fodder who are easily convinced instead. I wonder why? Edited November 13, 2012 by sharkman Quote
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) No where in the Bible is there standing orders to kill yourself and take out as many infidels as you can to get a reward of heaven. It's even one of the 10 commandments, and that was before the new testament dispensation, where Jesus said to love your enemies. BTW, tossing out insults is a tell. It doesnt say that anywhere in the Koran either, in fact suice is expressely forbidden. BTW, tossing out insults is a tell. Good thing I didnt do that. Edited November 13, 2012 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 But go ahead and tell us DOP? Why arent all these Islamic Royals strapping on suicide vests to hasten their journey to heaven? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 It doesnt say that anywhere in the Koran either, in fact suice is expressely forbidden. It most certainly is in the Koran. Several times. here's the first. http://quran.com/3/169 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 She explains the basics of Islam. Takes an hour...I know that's a bit past some folk's attention span. I wouldn't take an hour to read a single post. No. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 My 'claim' which is Islam's claim is that the surest way to the highest form of Heaven is to die fighting in the name of Allah and the Prophet Mohammed. Are you suggesting that there's no such thing as martyrs in other religions? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Also, since you seem to be more up on all this crazy Islam stuff than I, dre, can you explain to me the meaning of the word 'Istishhad' in a post? or is that Haraam? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Are you suggesting that there's no such thing as martyrs in other religions? Are you? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Also, since you seem to be more up on all this crazy Islam stuff than I, dre, can you explain to me the meaning of the word 'Istishhad' in a post? or is that Haraam? But go ahead and tell us DOP? Why arent all these Islamic Royals strapping on suicide vests to hasten their journey to heaven? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 But go ahead and tell us DOP? Why arent all these Islamic Royals strapping on suicide vests to hasten their journey to heaven? If you'd find the meaning of that word for me you'd also have your answer. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) If you'd find the meaning of that word for me you'd also have your answer. I know what that word means and it does nothing to answer my question. The answer is: You dont have an answer. You dont have any evidence at all for your claim that ali khameini (a man who can have all the virgins he wants right here on earth) is going to become a nuclear suidide bomber nor do you can you support any of your other tired bluster either. Edited November 13, 2012 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 I know what that word means and it does nothing to answer my question. No you do not. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 No you do not. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
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