DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Since 1980 eh? You are off by a rather large amount, and you can't deny that Iran has been relentlessly pursuing their nuclear goals in the face of global insistance that they desist. Perhaps they are getting closer than you think. Iran, frankly, is acting bold enough these days that I think they already have one. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 It's true that the greatest implement for world peace ever invented was the nuclear bomb, but up to now they've never been in the hands of potential martyrs. Indeed. We only assume MAD will work with Iran's mullahs. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Indeed. We only assume MAD will work with Iran's mullahs. If they figure there are enough virgins to go around... Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 If they figure there are enough virgins to go around... Well....yeah. Some think it's a running joke...the 72 virgin thing...but these idiots actually believe that. Toast Israel with a nuke? That should earn you some pretty babe-like virgins in Heaven. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Oh...and both Barack and Michelle owe everything to Valerie Jarrett. Literally everything. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Well....yeah. Some think it's a running joke...the 72 virgin thing...but these idiots actually believe that. Toast Israel with a nuke? That should earn you some pretty babe-like virgins in Heaven. It's not a joke. It depends a lot on translations, and where you look, but round breasted maidens abound in heaven, apparently. Quote
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Indeed. We only assume MAD will work with Iran's mullahs. We assume that for good reason though. He has been in power for a long time, and has a history of being rather rational and carefull. My guess is he has a fairly privileged and cushy life and wants to keep it that way. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 It's not a joke. It depends a lot on translations, and where you look, but round breasted maidens abound in heaven, apparently. Yup...not touched by man nor genie. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 We assume that for good reason though. He has been in power for a long time, and has a history of being rather rational and carefull. My guess is he has a fairly privileged and cushy life and wants to keep it that way. It's cushier in heaven with large breasted, almond-eyed virgins who are always horny. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 It's cushier in heaven with large breasted, almond-eyed virgins who are always horny. Doesnt change the fact your assertion is based on absolutely nothing. Irans leader has a long history of being fairly careful and consumed with his own survival. You can make unsubstantiated assumptions that hes just dying to commit suicide on behalf of himself and the persian race but nobody with more than about 5 braincells is going to take them seriously. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Isn't there something about a 12th Imam that makes him a bit more dodgy than your average tyrannical despot? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Doesnt change the fact your assertion is based on absolutely nothing. Irans leader has a long history of being fairly careful and consumed with his own survival. You can make unsubstantiated assumptions that hes just dying to commit suicide on behalf of himself and the persian race but nobody with more than about 5 braincells is going to take them seriously. Are you claiming that those who practice Islam do not actually believe what their faith says? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
sharkman Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 And so what? Actually,world war III was avoided by the super powers from having "the bomb" If anything,if Iran obtains the bomb,there will be more peace in the region. WWWTT So if there is another great war, will they skip III and call it WWIV? I'm not so sure about peace in the region. One member of the region has nukes, and peace has still been iffy. Quote
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 So if there is another great war, will they skip III and call it WWIV? I'm not so sure about peace in the region. One member of the region has nukes, and peace has still been iffy. Those nukes are the only reason there is peace in the region. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Isn't there something about a 12th Imam that makes him a bit more dodgy than your average tyrannical despot? Saddam's a piece of garbage that needed to go. Gassing the Kurds was one of the worst atrocities in the 20th century. Still doesn't change the fact that Colin Powell's presentation to the UN was entirely BS. Quote
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Saddam's a piece of garbage that needed to go. Gassing the Kurds was one of the worst atrocities in the 20th century. Still doesn't change the fact that Colin Powell's presentation to the UN was entirely BS. Are you in the right thread? Quote
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Are you in the right thread? Every thread is the right thread for calling Saddam an a------. But no. Edited November 13, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Are you claiming that those who practice Islam do not actually believe what their faith says? Well all abrahamic skygod worshippers believe in heaven, or at least claim to. But that belief very rarely nullifies anyones natural instinct to survive. By your twisted logic and naive view of human nature the muslims in charge of pakistans nukes would have launched them on India the second they had a few that worked to get banging those 72 virgins as fast as possible. And the reality is that if Khomeini wanted get some of that action, he doesnt need nukes to do it. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Well all abrahamic skygod worshippers believe in heaven, or at least claim to. But that belief very rarely nullifies anyones natural instinct to survive. By your twisted logic and naive view of human nature the muslims in charge of pakistans nukes would have launched them on India the second they had a few that worked to get banging those 72 virgins as fast as possible. And the reality is that if Khomeini wanted get some of that action, he doesnt need nukes to do it. Christianity and Judaism do not reward killing in the name of God with the highest form of Heaven. This is how Islam has been able to conduct war using fanatics since the 600s. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Christianity and Judaism do not reward killing in the name of God with the highest form of Heaven. This is how Islam has been able to conduct war using fanatics since the 600s. Sure they do... They believe that when they die its time for eternal bliss. So back to your argument... why dont they all do what they can to hasten their entrance into heaven? Based on your flimsy logic, whey dont all believers in heaven work to hasten their ascention? Why doesnt every devout muslim in the world strap on a suicide vest and get some of that hot virgin ass ASAP? Simple... Its because your entirely line of reasoning is utterly bogus, and infantile. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Well all abrahamic skygod worshippers believe in heaven, or at least claim to. But that belief very rarely nullifies anyones natural instinct to survive. By your twisted logic and naive view of human nature the muslims in charge of pakistans nukes would have launched them on India the second they had a few that worked to get banging those 72 virgins as fast as possible. And the reality is that if Khomeini wanted get some of that action, he doesnt need nukes to do it. It's a lottery. Islam has demonstrated that is has a surfeit of people willing to blow themselves up for martyrdom. They can't build the vests fast enough. I'm sure there are a lot of people who are very concerned about Pakistan's nukes. A lot more so than they are about Israel's, or France's, or Russia's. But it's true, they haven't dropped one on India yet. It's probably an issue of consensus. I wouldn't want to be in Tel Aviv if Iran got one though. Edited November 13, 2012 by bcsapper Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Sure they do... They believe that when they die its time for eternal bliss. So back to your argument... why dont they all do what they can to hasten their entrance into heaven? Based on your flimsy logic, whey dont all believers in heaven work to hasten their ascention? Why doesnt every devout muslim in the world strap on a suicide vest and get some of that hot virgin ass ASAP? Simple... Its because your entirely line of reasoning is utterly bogus, and infantile. No doubt, not a true Scotsman. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Sure they do... They believe that when they die its time for eternal bliss. So back to your argument... why dont they all do what they can to hasten their entrance into heaven? Based on your flimsy logic, whey dont all believers in heaven work to hasten their ascention? Why doesnt every devout muslim in the world strap on a suicide vest and get some of that hot virgin ass ASAP? Simple... Its because your entirely line of reasoning is utterly bogus, and infantile. It's because it's not true. (Edit> The virgin thing, and Heaven, I mean) They have to be convinced of it by their religious leaders, and there are a lot of them that are. Question: Do you deny that Islamists kill a lot of people using that method? Edited November 13, 2012 by bcsapper Quote
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 No doubt, not a true Scotsman. Here's an hour long video.... Time signature and why it's pertinent to your argument??? Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 I wouldn't want to be in Tel Aviv if Iran got one though. I'd rather be in Tel Aviv than Tehran. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
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