Guest Peeves Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) I wonder if anyone else has trouble with this family being accepted as immigrants in Canada? A now murderer, Illiterate immigrant who is broke, can't speak English, with several (6) children, with a wife who had t.b and is an epileptic. (now murdered). "they arrived in Canada from India, where they had lived after leaving Afghanistan. The couple failed to learn English, despite taking English as a second language classes for a full year, the daughter said. Her mother suffered from epilepsy, and had tuberculosis. Both she and her husband were on disability benefits and money was running short." It certainly is NOT the type I'd choose. After all, there are ramifications that cost the taxpayer...and now certainly the costs will multiply. Oh, he also seems to have depression and mental problems...a real winner for 'immigrants(s) of the month' trophy. http://news.national...ng-trial-hears/ Edited October 13, 2012 by Peeves Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 Immigrants should be able to meet these qualities. -Be healthy, disease and STD free -Speak at least some basic English, be able to hold a conversation -have enough money to support themselves and their family for a min. of one year or have skills that are in demand -if they have skills that Canada wants they need to have a job before landing on our shores or they go back -criminal record equals automatic disqualification - no appeal allowed -agree to leave barbaric cultural practices out of Canada -once in Canada any criminal infraction equals automatic return to homeland no appeal allowed. Also I would have conscription at 18 for min of 3 years for every citizen. I think that military service strengthens patriotism. How much do you really love your country if you refuse to die for the freedom it provides? That would be my basic list. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Michael Hardner Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 My comments Immigrants should be able to meet these qualities. -Be healthy, disease and STD free "and" STD ? The D in STD stands for "disease". -Speak at least some basic English, be able to hold a conversation French need not apply ? -have enough money to support themselves and their family for a min. of one year or have skills that are in demand I don't think many immigrants have tens of thousands of dollars on hand when they arrivel. -if they have skills that Canada wants they need to have a job before landing on our shores or they go back -criminal record equals automatic disqualification - no appeal allowed -agree to leave barbaric cultural practices out of Canada -once in Canada any criminal infraction equals automatic return to homeland no appeal allowed. I think many of these things are already in place. Also I would have conscription at 18 for min of 3 years for every citizen. I think that military service strengthens patriotism. How much do you really love your country if you refuse to die for the freedom it provides?That would be my basic list. Conscription ? Mr. Canada Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Guest Peeves Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 Immigrants should be able to meet these qualities. -Be healthy, disease and STD free -Speak at least some basic English, be able to hold a conversation -have enough money to support themselves and their family for a min. of one year or have skills that are in demand -if they have skills that Canada wants they need to have a job before landing on our shores or they go back -criminal record equals automatic disqualification - no appeal allowed -agree to leave barbaric cultural practices out of Canada -once in Canada any criminal infraction equals automatic return to homeland no appeal allowed. Also I would have conscription at 18 for min of 3 years for every citizen. I think that military service strengthens patriotism. How much do you really love your country if you refuse to die for the freedom it provides? That would be my basic list. "once in Canada any criminal infraction equals automatic return to homeland no appeal allowed." Unfortunately the home country may have different ideas And so might our courts if the turned criminal was accepted as a refugee. But, I see where you are coming from. Other countries have compulsory call up for military. I think Israel *(Except for Arab Israelis) and many others seem to have compulsary service of differing time frames. *Israel (36 months for men, 21 months for women)[5] http://en.wikipedia....ilitary_service Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 French need not apply ? Our contry is almost entirely English, English is the language of business. French is an ethnic pet language much like the aboriginal languages nothing more. I don't think many immigrants have tens of thousands of dollars on hand when they arrivel. Then Canada doesn't need them. We cannot afford to constantly pay for immigrants to come here and go on welfare. Sorry but it's true. No money or skills, no thank you.I think many of these things are already in place.Some are some aren't we let criminals in quite often. Conscription ? Yes, it's a sure fire way to encourage patriotism . As it stands now we have empathy and a socialist element that would love to destroy Canada not build it up. having unchecked immigration like the NDP want will destroy Canada. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Michael Hardner Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 Our contry is almost entirely English, English is the language of business. French is an ethnic pet language much like the aboriginal languages nothing more. So, this is basically your fantasy then. It would never become policy as long as Quebec existed. Then Canada doesn't need them. We cannot afford to constantly pay for immigrants to come here and go on welfare. Sorry but it's true. No money or skills, no thank you. Lump of labour fallacy... more fantasy from you. Harper won't be shutting the door to immigration at any point in this majority - you may want to ask yourself why. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 So, this is basically your fantasy then. It would never become policy as long as Quebec existed.I could live with kicking Quebec out, they want to leave anyways, let them go. Otherwise it would be fine to let French peoole in as long as they stayed within French speaking villages and didn't expect for English majority spaces to teach tem eEnglish for free.Lump of labour fallacy... more fantasy from you. Harper won't be shutting the door to immigration at any point in this majority - you may want to ask yourself why. I'm not saying that either. Our unemployment rate is fairly high right now as it is so we cannot simply let people in with n skills that we cannot use. It's time to be more picky and oinly choose those immigrants that Canada can use right away. No more unskilled labour. Canada needs professional people, doctors etc. And people with money to open businesses and buy houses. I don't see what is wrong with wanting only the very best people to share my country, limiting the uneducated and poor people. Canada has enough of those. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Guest Peeves Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 So, this is basically your fantasy then. It would never become policy as long as Quebec existed. Lump of labour fallacy... more fantasy from you. Harper won't be shutting the door to immigration at any point in this majority - you may want to ask yourself why. So, this is basically your fantasy then. It would never become policy as long as Quebec existed. Lump of labour fallacy... more fantasy from you. Harper won't be shutting the door to immigration at any point in this majority - you may want to ask yourself why. All the rest aside, how do you stand on the acceptance of the family described in the original post? Acceptable as immigrants, or unacceptable? Quote
Argus Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 Lump of labour fallacy... more fantasy from you. Harper won't be shutting the door to immigration at any point in this majority - you may want to ask yourself why. Because he's pandering to ethnic voters. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Guest Peeves Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 Because he's pandering to ethnic voters. Oh c'mon! After the Liberal catering to ethnic and immigrants you have the chutzpah to post that. Shame on you. I doubt that Harper has any input of consequence on immigrants. Quote
Argus Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 Oh c'mon! After the Liberal catering to ethnic and immigrants you have the chutzpah to post that. Shame on you. I doubt that Harper has any input of consequence on immigrants. You're kidding, right? Sure the Liberals pandered to ethnic voters. Now the Tories do the same. They just pander to different ethnic groups. In addition, the Tories are terrified of giving the opposition any excuse to return to the 'scary anti minority tories' theme of old, so they aren't about to do anything perceived as 'anti immigrant'. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smallc Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 I could live with kicking Quebec out, they want to leave anyways, let them go. Otherwise it would be fine to let French peoole in as long as they stayed within French speaking villages and didn't expect for English majority spaces to teach tem eEnglish for free. Does your bigotry know any bounds? Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 Does your bigotry know any bounds? I'm not bigoted in any way whatsoever. I have deep concern for the way tax dollars are spent. Waste isn't an option. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Peter F Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 I wonder if anyone else has trouble with this family being accepted as immigrants in Canada? A now murderer, Illiterate immigrant who is broke, can't speak English, with several (6) children, with a wife who had t.b and is an epileptic. (now murdered). "they arrived in Canada from India, where they had lived after leaving Afghanistan. The couple failed to learn English, despite taking English as a second language classes for a full year, the daughter said. Her mother suffered from epilepsy, and had tuberculosis. Both she and her husband were on disability benefits and money was running short." Would that be before the murder or after the murder? What would indicate to immigration officials that the man was going to kill someone? Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
Smallc Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 I'm not bigoted in any way whatsoever. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 I live in a safe rural area and I wish this area to remain safe. It becomes unsafe every time Canada lets in an immigrant that doesn't meet strict criteria. We must make it harder to get into Canada not easier. The safety of our citizens depends on it. I don't understand how people here don't understand that. I might add that many here live in small towns and have limited contact with foreigners at all. I find it humorous that people with the least amount of experience with immigrants wish to tell Canada what they should do with immigrants lol. lets band together to keep Canada a safe country for everyone. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 I live in a safe rural area and I wish this area to remain safe. Is it really safe? Statistically, are rural areas safer? I'm not so sure. It becomes unsafe every time Canada lets in an immigrant that doesn't meet strict criteria. Your area becomes unsafe every time that happens? Really? We must make it harder to get into Canada not easier. Why must we do either? The system requires constant tweaking, but other than that... I might add that many here live in small towns and have limited contact with foreigners at all. I find it humorous that people with the least amount of experience with immigrants wish to tell Canada what they should do with immigrants lol. lets band together to keep Canada a safe country for everyone. You don't know many here very well, and you don't know what our life experience is. Quote
dre Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 Also I would have conscription at 18 for min of 3 years for every citizen. I think that military service strengthens patriotism. How much do you really love your country if you refuse to die for the freedom it provides? That would be my basic list. Why on earth would would you want to strengthen patriotism? Its a mild form of retardation that impedes the ability to think objectively. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
dre Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 I live in a safe rural area and I wish this area to remain safe. It becomes unsafe every time Canada lets in an immigrant that doesn't meet strict criteria. We must make it harder to get into Canada not easier. The safety of our citizens depends on it. I don't understand how people here don't understand that. I might add that many here live in small towns and have limited contact with foreigners at all. I find it humorous that people with the least amount of experience with immigrants wish to tell Canada what they should do with immigrants lol. lets band together to keep Canada a safe country for everyone. The problem is that all that stuff is bunk. Immigrants to Canada dont present any of the problems you think they do. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
jacee Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 I'm not bigoted in any way whatsoever. Quote
Guest Peeves Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 You're kidding, right? Sure the Liberals pandered to ethnic voters. Now the Tories do the same. They just pander to different ethnic groups. In addition, the Tories are terrified of giving the opposition any excuse to return to the 'scary anti minority tories' theme of old, so they aren't about to do anything perceived as 'anti immigrant'. I doubt any government has done more to upset ethnic groups on immigration issues than the current regime. None seem happy with the stricter immigration policies. The Kenny influenced tightening of refugee and immigration has done nothing but the opposite to pandering. Our current government is Continuing Canada's immigration numbers but, using controls to vet and discourage abuse. That will hardly gain them votes with ethnic groups. Quote
Guest Peeves Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 The problem is that all that stuff is bunk. Immigrants to Canada dont present any of the problems you think they do. Nonsense. We have had thousands here under fraudulent claims and those with criminal or even terrorist connections. These all cost tax payers money and tie up our hearings for legitimate immigrants. These undesirable immigrant/refugees are certainly causing financial problems at the least, and some are committing criminal acts as well. Quote
Guest Peeves Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 Would that be before the murder or after the murder? What would indicate to immigration officials that the man was going to kill someone? Now I would expect anyone over the age of 12-14 could figure that out for themselves unless they were going out of their way to appear jejune. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 Is it really safe? Statistically, are rural areas safer? I'm not so sure. Here are some statistics that don't come out of somebody's lazy opinions. Stats Canada released the latest statistics from 2011 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2012/07/24/mb-crime-statistics-homicide-rate-manitoba.html Crime in the cities When it comes to severe crime in specific cities, Winnipeg comes in fourth, behind Regina, Saskatoon and Thunder Bay. Guelph had the lowest CSI value among CMAs for the fifth consecutive year, followed by Québec, Toronto and Ottawa. Yes, there's immigrant heavy Toronto at 2nd lowest on the list. Is it even remotely possible that immigrants are less likely to commit violent crime than natural born Canadians - especially those from Western Cities ? I propose we start sending people from the top 3 cities (Winnipeg, Regina, Saskatoon) to Pakistan. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 The problem is that all that stuff is bunk. Immigrants to Canada dont present any of the problems you think they do. Really? None of them? No problems at all? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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