Mr.Canada Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) Many people understand the value of due process and our Charter rights. Coercing a guilty plea from a illegally unrepresented minor whose been deprived of these fundamental tenets of justice emakes you guilty. But don't take my word for that, go talk to the Supreme Court of Canada. You do believe the SC don't you? Omar Khadr was 23 or 24 years old when he plead guilty. This isn't the age of a minor. Edited October 3, 2012 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 No, Mr. Canada was most likely not there at the time, No, chances are he was at a gay pride parade collecting credible evidence or some such thing. but the witnesses were there and they state what happened and I would take the version of events they present over the version of someone who was not there, and has limited understanding of the situation at hand and bases his opinion on assumptions. What about the witnesses whose recollection conflicts with the official version? There are some people who were there and then there some people who were "there". Yes and that includes the one's who have a conflicting recollection of official events. Apparently not, because Khadr lied according to you at least. Well I've never met him myself so I wouldn't know. BTW did you hear the fellow who tortured Khadr in the hospital expressing his sorrow and regret at what he'd done on the news the other evening? It just keeps getting worse for your side each and every passing day. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Omar Khadr was 23 or 24 years old when he plead guilty. This isn't the age of a minor. Christ in a stick...WTF does that have to do with anything? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Signals.Cpl Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Many people understand the value of due process and our Charter rights. Coercing a guilty plea from a illegally unrepresented minor whose been deprived of these fundamental tenets of justice emakes you guilty. But don't take my word for that, go talk to the Supreme Court of Canada. You do believe the SC don't you? Since when is 20 something year old a minor? And by the way he had representation, at a higher level than either of us can hope to ever receive should we need it. Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
Signals.Cpl Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 What about the witnesses whose recollection conflicts with the official version? Good Question, how reliable was their assessment? Were they there and saw the events transpire, or were they in a different location and made assumptions? Yes and that includes the one's who have a conflicting recollection of official events. Being in the general geographic area does not mean they know what happened, there are very few people who know what happened there, and I can count them on one hand. Well I've never met him myself so I wouldn't know. Well according to you, he lied when he pleaded guilty... BTW did you hear the fellow who tortured Khadr in the hospital expressing his sorrow and regret at what he'd done on the news the other evening? And did you hear about the US Army "Ranger" Who expressed sorrow and regret for slaughtering unarmed civilians in Iraq only to turn out that he never made it past basic training? What if I go on TV and make a sad sob story about how 10 years ago I tortured Khadr in Guantanamo Bay and I regret my actions, how reliable is that? It just keeps getting worse for your side each and every passing day. Not really, it keeps getting worse and worse for Canada each and every passing day, because soon enough he will be out and writing a book, or suing the government for imagined grievances and using the funds to conduct terrorism in Canada. It's sad that idiots have to be proven wrong through the deaths of innocent people... and even then super star Khadr will not be responsible for his actions for one reason or another. Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
Guest Manny Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Christ in a stick...WTF does that have to do with anything? It gets a rise out of you. Quote
Signals.Cpl Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Christ in a stick...WTF does that have to do with anything? Proves that you have issues with the truth. Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Since when is 20 something year old a minor? Your right, and I've edited references to minor regarding his coerced confession. And by the way he had representation, at a higher level than either of us can hope to ever receive should we need it. Let me guess, Allah? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Mr.Canada Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Christ in a stick...WTF does that have to do with anything? A lot. You said he was a minor when he pleaded guilty when in fact he plead guilt in 2010 making him 23 or 24. He wasn't coerced into pleading guilty, he did so of his own free will in open court. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Mr.Canada Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) Which means absolutely zip. I disagree it means a lot. He was born in Canada but lived all but 2 years a outside Canada. He is a Canadian by birth only, nothing else makes him a Canadian. He has no idea about our culture at all. he knows and is influenced by Pakistan and Afghani culture. he's been training his whole life to kill and bomb infidels. I wonder if he knows that we don't stone women for not being covered from head to toe. Does he know that in Canada homosexuals are free and aren't hung in the streets? How will he adjust to going from living among his own people doing Gods work to living amongst infidels? Edited October 3, 2012 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Not really, it keeps getting worse and worse for Canada each and every passing day, because soon enough he will be out and writing a book, or suing the government for imagined grievances and using the funds to conduct terrorism in Canada. It's sad that idiots have to be proven wrong through the deaths of innocent people... and even then super star Khadr will not be responsible for his actions for one reason or another. What's really going to be bad for Canada is if the government uses the notwithstanding clause to try and thwart any Supreme Court ruling that is in Khadr's favour. Perhaps Canada is SO polarized over this one kid that we'll tear ourselves to pieces over our differences. On second thought maybe a constitutional crisis of that magnitude would be a wonderful refreshing change. Yeah, bring it on. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 I disagree it means a lot. He was born in Canada but lived all but 2 years a outside Canada. He is a Canadian by birth only, nothing else makes him a Canadian. He has no idea about our culture at all. he knows and is influenced by Pakistan and Afghani culture. Good luck flinging that poo past the SC. Blah blah blah Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Mr.Canada Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Good luck flinging that poo past the SC. So you think that someone who has lived 2 out of the last 26 years in Canada has a good grasp of Canadian culture? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 So you think that someone who has lived 2 out of the last 26 years in Canada has a good grasp of Canadian culture? I think anyone born in Canada has all the same rights you do, and so does the SC. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Mr.Canada Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 I think anyone born in Canada has all the same rights you do, and so does the SC. That's not the question. Does a person who has lived outside the country for 24 of 26 years have a good grasp on Canadian culture? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 That's not the question. Does a person who has lived outside the country for 24 of 26 years have a good grasp on Canadian culture? The Queen wasn't even born here and She practically IS our culture. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Mr.Canada Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) The Queen wasn't even born here and She practically IS our culture. Geez, it's hard to give a straight yes or no answer isn't it. Someone is probably going to murder Khadr anyways so Im not too worried about him. Edited October 3, 2012 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Geez, it's hard to give a straight yes or no answer isn't it. Someone is probably going to murder Khadr anyways so Im not too worried about him. How Canadian of you. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Mr.Canada Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 How Canadian of you. I am asking a straight question yet you are too afraid to answer it because you know what I'm saying is right. If I wasn't you'd give a straight yes or no to my question. Keep running, it's fun watching you squirm...lol. I'll try one more time. yes or no answer please. Does a person who has lived outside the country for 24 of 26 years have a good grasp on Canadian culture? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 I am asking a straight question yet you are too afraid to answer it because you know what I'm saying is right. If I wasn't you'd give a straight yes or no to my question. Keep running, it's fun watching you squirm...lol. I'll try one more time. yes or no answer please. Does a person who has lived outside the country for 24 of 26 years have a good grasp on Canadian culture? Sometimes. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Mr.Canada Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 So if I went off overseas and killed Americans in war you would support me as well? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 So if I went off overseas and killed Americans in war you would support me as well? Sometimes. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Mr.Canada Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Sometimes. Ok great. Give me an example of a time when you wouldn't support me going overseas to kill Americans in war. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
eyeball Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 Ok great. Give me an example of a time when you wouldn't support me going overseas to kill Americans in war. If you went after my brother or his family I'd be kinda pissed but I probably wouldn't get too bent out of shape if you went after GW Bush or Dick Cheney. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Mr.Canada Posted October 3, 2012 Report Posted October 3, 2012 If you went after my brother or his family I'd be kinda pissed but I probably wouldn't get too bent out of shape if you went after GW Bush or Dick Cheney. Lol. I see. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
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