Motion 312 vote coming soon!

[Mr.Canada]

You have a point. Still, when he was talking about the laundromat and having a woman's 'undivided' attention for an hour, I couldn't help but think of those moments in life where you're trapped with someone who really doesn't know how to take a hint.

You're a good guy though for giving him the benefit of the doubt. Or maybe you need to read more of his posts.

Lol. I've been turned down tons of times. I would just move onto the next one. I can read people very well. I play poker for a living. If I would start talking to her and I wasn't feeling it I would just walk away...lol.

You guys seem to think I was hard up or something. As I said Im a good looking guy who is very fit I never had trouble picking up women. I was never God gift or anything but I was never shy, I could talk intelligently about almost anything and was a good listener. That's enough for some women to warrant a second meeting.

The way I am on here and real life are two very different things. This is entertainment while playing poker online. Yes, I hold conservative views in real life but I don't go around espousing them to whomever will listen...lol. As I've said if you saw me in real life you'd have a hard time believing that I'm behind Mr.Canada. I'm the boy next door.

[Bonam]

You're a good guy...

Sweet, there's my opening. The setup worked. When's the next time you're stopping by the laundromat?

[Mr.Canada]

Sweet, there's my opening. The setup worked. When's the next time you're stopping by the laundromat?

Lol, where do you meet women? I refuse to do it at work. It gets weird real quick. Been there done that wouldn't do it again. There aren't too many options. Bar or club, grocery store, laundromat, church and thats about it.

[Jiblethead]

In my opinion, a fetus is only a fetus until the child is removed from the woman. Until that point, it is part of the woman, part of her body. Obviously i am pro choice

[BC_chick]

Sweet, there's my opening. The setup worked. When's the next time you're stopping by the laundromat?

Tuesdays at 4:00. Like you don't already have it jotted down in your booklet!

Kidding aside, I get your point. One woman's creep is another woman's dream guy.

[Bonam]

Lol, where do you meet women? I refuse to do it at work. It gets weird real quick. Been there done that wouldn't do it again. There aren't too many options. Bar or club, grocery store, laundromat, church and thats about it.

I mostly go for the sporty types I find on hikes and at climbing gyms.

Tuesdays at 4:00. Like you don't already have it jotted down in your booklet!

Booklet? Nah, there's an app for that.

[PIK]

Trolling means I'm trying to elicit an emotion response from others, that's not what I'm doing here.

I'm trying to help out people who don't wish to waste their time with abortionists. So I'm giving some pointers on how to avoid them. Including tips on how to pick up women.

I have to admit I did some trolling here once, but it was to get waldo all excited. Waldo is funny when he is all excited.

[scribblet]

In my opinion, a fetus is only a fetus until the child is removed from the woman. Until that point, it is part of the woman, part of her body. Obviously i am pro choice

It'll never end, there will always be a group who will fight choice, they believe very strongly that it's murder, they won't stop, ever.

[kraychik]

There is just so much irrationality in all his posts. Some of that has got to creep into his personal life.

I find your reflexive support for nonsensical and emotionally-based leftist politics thar destroy socieites far more creepy than Mr. Canada's "scientific" approach to meeting ladies. Some of that must creep into your personal life.

[dre]

I mostly go for the sporty types I find on hikes and at climbing gyms.

Ditto. Im not a climber but I met my wife, and a couple of my previous girl friends playing recreational sports.

[Guest]

It'll never end, there will always be a group who will fight choice, they believe very strongly that it's murder, they won't stop, ever.

If one believes it's murder, it's hard to see how one could stop.

Personally, I couldn't care less. Abort a foetus for whatever reason you want. Sex selection, disability prevention, boredom, Fell out with the Dad, I don't care. Because I don't believe it's murder and I'm pro choice on everything.

But I can't really blame someone who does believe that it's murder for being against it.

[Keepitsimple]

I'd love to see a survey of mothers only and see what percentage believe that life begins only when their baby is removed from their body - or whether it's sometime before. The experience they get looking at beating hearts in an ultrasound - and feeling their babies kick them awake at night is a pretty big clue as to where their answers would lie. Seems like a reasonable survey, no? Mothers....babies?

I know this would make the "right to choose" zeolots (no way but our way) uncomfortable as it might lead to Canada adopting legislation similar to every single other Western country - yes, that includes Sweden, Netherlands, France, Germany - you name it - they've got it. They've actually had a mature discussion and found reasonable comprimise between a Woman's control over her body and protecting the unborn.

Edited September 30, 2012 by Keepitsimple

[scribblet]

If one believes it's murder, it's hard to see how one could stop.

Personally, I couldn't care less. Abort a foetus for whatever reason you want. Sex selection, disability prevention, boredom, Fell out with the Dad, I don't care. Because I don't believe it's murder and I'm pro choice on everything.

But I can't really blame someone who does believe that it's murder for being against it.

The problem with the radicals who are against abortions even for rape or incest is they are so far out that they want to criminalize some forms of contraception because they believe they are 'abortifacients'. That's when I really get my dander up. Canada fortunately doesn't have the number of religious zealots the U.S. does, we do have a few.

[Guest]

I'd love to see a survey of mothers only and see what percentage believe that life begins only when their baby is removed from their body - or whether it's sometime before. The experience they get looking at beating hearts in an ultrasound - and feeling their babies kick them awake at night is a pretty big clue as to where their answers would lie. Seems like a reasonable survey, no? Mothers....babies?

I know this would make the "right to choose" zeolots (no way but our way) uncomfortable as it might lead to Canada adopting abortion legislation similar to every single other Western country - yes, that includes Sweden, Netherlands, France, Germany - you name it - they've got it. They've actually had a mature discussion and found reasonable comprimise between a Woman's control over her body and protecting the unborn.

There's nothing extreme about the right to choose. One can choose not to have an abortion.

Personally, I believe in the right to choose whatever you want to do with your own body. Wanna die, and you can get a doc to help? By all means. Wanna rent out your womb? Go ahead. Wanna sell a kidney? It's your kidney. Put it on Ebay.

Hell, I wouldn't mind if you wanted to sell both kidneys. It's your choice.

Does that make me a zealot?

[Keepitsimple]

There's nothing extreme about the right to choose. One can choose not to have an abortion.

Personally, I believe in the right to choose whatever you want to do with your own body. Wanna die, and you can get a doc to help? By all means. Wanna rent out your womb? Go ahead. Wanna sell a kidney? It's your kidney. Put it on Ebay.

Hell, I wouldn't mind if you wanted to sell both kidneys. It's your choice.

Does that make me a zealot?

You're not a mother - so you've missed the point of my post......although I think you've proven it to some extent.

Edited September 30, 2012 by Keepitsimple

[Guest]

You're not a mother - so you've missed the point of my post......although I think you've proven it to some extent.

I got the point. I was just replying to the second paragraph. I should have cut the first, as the forum rules request.

However, to answer your point, I am a father. Which is just as good as a mother. And if I had a choice whether or not to abort a potential child of mine I would make it. One way or the other.

[Smallc]

I'd love to see a survey of mothers only and see what percentage believe that life begins only when their baby is removed from their body

Who cares? This is about the individual woman making the choice.

[Keepitsimple]

Who cares? This is about the individual woman making the choice.

But motion 312 is about when life begins......and putting aside the fear of getting into an abortion debate, if you asked mothers "when does life begin", I'd hazard a guess that a majority of them would agree that it's sometime before the baby is welcomed into the world. The vote in Parliament was not reflective of that fact. It was a "make it go away" vote. That's not necessarily a bad thing because maybe in the Canadian context, it's best to just leave things alone. That doesn't change the fact that in reality, there is a very large percentage of mothers that hear the heartbeats and the kicking of their unborn babies.

[Smallc]

But motion 312 is about when life begins......and putting aside the fear of getting into an abortion debate, if you asked mothers "when does life begin", I'd hazard a guess that a majority of them would agree that it's sometime before the baby is welcomed into the world. The vote in Parliament was not reflective of that fact.

That's not an important fact. It's not even a fact. I don't care what a bunch of mothers think, really.

[kraychik]

That's not an important fact. It's not even a fact. I don't care what a bunch of mothers think, really.

Of course it's an important fact. Canada is one the extreme end of not granting rights to unborn children until they are completely detached from the mother. Although I find comparison to other states largely useless (as popularity is not an argument in favour of anything in international terms), Keepitsimple is demonstrating an obvious point that Canada has staked out an extreme position that is likely out-of-step with the majority of Canadians.

[kraychik]

Who cares? This is about the individual woman making the choice.

In case you hadn't yet noticed, the debate about abortion is about more than just the choice of the mother of the unborn child. At least recognise that reasonable people can disagree over this issue. I guess that's a bit too much as from you. You should change your screen name from Smallc to BigL.

[Smallc]

In case you hadn't yet noticed, the debate about abortion is about more than just the choice of the mother of the unborn child.

Not really. In fact, it's about nothing but that. Some of you just seem to think that it's your business.

At least recognise that reasonable people can disagree over this issue. I guess that's a bit too much as from you.

Taking a survey of the feelings of mothers isn't really a reasonable approach at all.

[Smallc]

Of course it's an important fact. Canada is one the extreme end of not granting rights to unborn children until they are completely detached from the mother.

Precisely because of that.

[BC_chick]

I find your reflexive support for nonsensical and emotionally-based leftist politics thar destroy socieites far more creepy than Mr. Canada's "scientific" approach to meeting ladies. Some of that must creep into your personal life.

Ya I started working on my society-destroying politics in high-school and you know, there really was no going back.

[guyser]

In case you hadn't yet noticed,

...here is where the posts get moved.

the debate about abortion is about more than just the choice of the mother of the unborn child.

In case your brain aint working...it is about the choice of a woman, a woman only, no other people, not you, not me nobody.

But hey, in your own frantic ,delsusional, smiley faced world, you"ll try and make it something else.

Edited October 2, 2012 by guyser