Mr.Canada Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 Police and social workers in England have been accused of failing to investigate an Asian paedophile gang for fear of being perceived as racist, leaving the men free to prey on up to 50 white girls.Greater Manchester Police and the Crown Prosecution Service apologised after they failed to bring the case of the first victim, known as Girl A, to trial following her initial cry for help in August 2008. One 13-year-old victim became pregnant and had the child aborted while another was raped by 20 men in one night, Liverpool Crown Court heard. Complaints to social workers and the police were ignored because they were "petrified of being called racist", Ann Cryer, the former Labour MP for Keighley, said. This is political correctness gone awry. This is disgusting if this is what it means to be politically correct. Police should be free to do their jobs regardless of the persons race/religion. A girl cries for help from being raped and child services and the police do nothing for fear of being labeled racist? is this what's next for Canada? This is awful and disgusting. Is this what official multiculturalism means? I hope no one here in Canada thinks this is appropriate behavior for authorities to follow. I hope this girl sues everyone involved and becomes a millionaire. This is simply horrific. The defendants were all found guilty of conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children under 16. Aziz, Khan, Rauf, Sajid, Safi and Defendant X were convicted of trafficking for sexual exploitation. Defendant X, Hassan and Sajid were found guilty of rape. Sajid was convicted of sexual activity with a child. Amin was also convicted of sexual assault. Defendant X was convicted of aiding and abetting a rape and one count of sexual assault. Source of quotes I truly hope that this way of thinking doesn't come to Canada. It will truly not help separate the good Muslims from the bad. I'm just not sure if this is a common way of thinking in the Muslim community or not, that's what's scary. We just don't know but I think it's our duty as a country to find out if this is popular before admitting more people to our country. Protection of our citizens should trump political correctness and multiculturalism, this is one cultural difference that Canada doesn't need to import. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Michael Hardner Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 If I can't even click on a link at work, it's a sign that the source might not be the best. Please check your sources for inflammatory stories such as this - they're often from race-bating groups. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
guyser Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 Alert! Obvious troll is trolling obviously. Quote
kraychik Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 If I can't even click on a link at work, it's a sign that the source might not be the best. Please check your sources for inflammatory stories such as this - they're often from race-bating groups. How is the link not safe for work? Quote
Mr.Canada Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) If I can't even click on a link at work, it's a sign that the source might not be the best. Please check your sources for inflammatory stories such as this - they're often from race-bating groups. It's a widespread story. Here is another sources of the same story. If it's true , it's true inflammatory or not is irrelevant. We as a society cannot simply bury our heads in the sand and pretend it's not happening. one more for good measure. Edited September 24, 2012 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
guyser Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 How is the link not safe for work? How is english so hard for you to understand? Dont answer, its rhetorical. Quote
kraychik Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) Here is the beautiful "multiculturalism" at work in the UK. Racist third-world trash from Somalia living in the UK attack a girl while shouting "kill the white slag!". The judge's decision? A suspended sentence. Why? Because they're Muslim girls, and "not used to drinking". Girl gang who kicked woman in the head while yelling 'kill the white slag' freed after judge hears 'they weren't used to drinking because they're Muslims' Here's another gem: Woman arrested after video surfaces of black woman making racist comments about white people on a London bus Edited September 24, 2012 by kraychik Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 I don't see the point of attaching this to their religion, unless it's to denigrate people who have nothing to do with this. People think that way, I suppose, but I don't. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
guyser Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 Here is a picture of an Orange. http://www.gardeningblog.net/how-to-grow/oranges/ Quote
Mr.Canada Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) How is english so hard for you to understand? Dont answer, its rhetorical. This isn't about me it's about the quoted story or a Muslim gang repeatedly raping white girls simply because they are white. Please try to refrain from personal attacks and trolling(which are against the rules) and instead comment on the story I've quoted. Thank you. Edited September 24, 2012 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
GostHacked Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 It's a widespread story. Here is another sources of the same story. If it's true , it's true inflammatory or not is irrelevant. We as a society cannot simply bury our heads in the sand and pretend it's not happening. one more for good measure. Geeze and when dailymail is used to prop up other arguments, people get ridiculed. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 I ask yet again what the point is of posting crimes from the other side of the world (definitely NOT countries in the West if we use the previous discussion as reference) and broadcast the religion of the criminals. It's not illuminating, nor does it lead to discussion. Edited to add: and do they ALL need separate threads ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
guyser Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 Please try to refrain from personal attacks and trolling(which are against the rules) and instead comment on the story I've quoted. Thank you. Didnt attack anything. Troll alert!! Troll alert!! Quote
GostHacked Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 Here is a picture of an Orange. http://www.gardeningblog.net/how-to-grow/oranges/ Flawless victory. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Posted September 24, 2012 I ask yet again what the point is of posting crimes from the other side of the world (definitely NOT countries in the West if we use the previous discussion as reference) and broadcast the religion of the criminals. It's not illuminating, nor does it lead to discussion. Edited to add: and do they ALL need separate threads ? because we're importing people from the other side of the world who may carry the same attitudes as these people. Thinking it cannot happen here in Canada is naive Michael. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
guyser Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 This isn't about me . Youre trying to make it about you. Kinda dumb tho, I posted what you quoted to kraychik. The two of you are the Rob Fords of MLW. Fat dumb and stupid is no way to get thru life Son (or Sons, you two are brothers) Quote
Wild Bill Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 If I can't even click on a link at work, it's a sign that the source might not be the best. Please check your sources for inflammatory stories such as this - they're often from race-bating groups. Well, you could try this link to The Telegraph, of an article printed last May: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9253250/Rochdale-grooming-trial-Police-accused-of-failing-to-investigate-paedophile-gang-for-fear-of-appearing-racist.html "However, the true number of victims, who were "passed around" by the gang, is likely to be nearer to 50, police have admitted." "Complaints to social workers and the police were ignored because they were "petrified of being called racist", former Labour MP for Keighley Ann Cryer said." The article is a good read and seems to be quite the reliable source, Michael. It would be worth your while to read the entire thing. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
bleeding heart Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 I think we should note that the "police being petrified of being called racists" bit--which has been repeated in each article, and several times on this thread--is the opinion of a single person, an ex-labour MP. Seems slightly disproportionate, doesn't it? Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
kraychik Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 because we're importing people from the other side of the world who may carry the same attitudes as these people. Thinking it cannot happen here in Canada is naive Michael. It's already happening in Canada. There was a story of a couple of Carleton University students, one involved with pro-Israel work on campus and the other a Jewish exchange student from Israel, who were chased and almost murdered by a bunch of Muslims with machetes in Hull. Jewish cemeteries and synagogues have been vandalised by these people. All sorts of stories. And those are only a couple of stories that actually made it to the news. Irresponsible immigration policies, combined with leftist "political correctness", is what's causing all this. And this is directly connected to the theme from your original post. Quote
Wild Bill Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 I think we should note that the "police being petrified of being called racists" bit--which has been repeated in each article, and several times on this thread--is the opinion of a single person, an ex-labour MP. Seems slightly disproportionate, doesn't it? Are you suggesting that the opinion of a left wing MP is not valid? Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Michael Hardner Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 because we're importing people from the other side of the world who may carry the same attitudes as these people. Thinking it cannot happen here in Canada is naive Michael. Right - so let's be clear here - we're talking about guilt by association. People who come from that country and of that religion should be prevented from coming here because people with the same nationality and religion have committed crimes. It's not a standard that can or should be followed, because the link is associative only, not causative. You can't say that these people are worse people because of extremists. We don't do that with other races, religions or nationalities why would we do it here ? It's muddle-headed and emotional thinking. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 This is provocative material, so please don't make it worse by attacking or insulting people. Thanks. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
bleeding heart Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 Are you suggesting that the opinion of a left wing MP is not valid? I'm saying that the opinion of one left-wing MP is as valid as the opinion of one left-wing MP. But the "fears of being labelled racist" and "political correctness" themes depend entirely on a single, subjective response, given a disproportionate amount of weight. I'm not even claiming it's false. But I look at such stories and their discrete elements rather...conservatively, you might say. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
bleeding heart Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 At any rate, the real story here is the astoundingly horrific story itself, which is jaw-dropping in its depravity. The "keep the Muslims out" implication is a case of politicization trumping the real horror. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
WWWTT Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 To commit a violent crime against another human must be very hard to do and the perpetrator must have something wrong with them (in my opinion anyways). To say that the defendants are willing to commit such violations due to their ethnicity/religion or background may be plausible. However I would not subscribe to such theories unless there was actual hard fact, evidence and stats to back this claim. There are many other cases of hate crimes from people right here. Do they cancel everything? And what about sexual crimes caused by westerners?Where does that fit into the mix? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
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