Megadeth Singer is a Lunatic

Shady · August 19, 2012

I used to like Megadeth. It's not that I stopped liking them, it's just I kind of lost track of them.

Me too.

-k

Definitey no talent. Although I guess he can kind of play a guitar. That's about it though.

dre · August 20, 2012

Me too.

Definitey no talent. Although I guess he can kind of play a guitar. That's about it though.

Yeah its easy to lose track of aging rockers. But megadeth goes down as one of the greatest metal bands of all time.

And for anyone suprised about Megadeth and conspiracy theories...

Great song, conspiracy theory or not. Love the guitars at 5:00

Edited August 20, 2012 by dre

socialist · August 20, 2012

Yeah its easy to lose track of aging rockers. But megadeth goes down as one of the greatest metal bands of all time.

And for anyone suprised about Megadeth and conspiracy theories...

Great song, conspiracy theory or not. Love the guitars at 5:00

Wake Up Dead was a great tune, used to get me fired up. i remember a couple of bullies tried to shake me down for my Peace Sells cassette. Too bad for them they were fat and couldn't run. a hard kick in the nuts stopped them. no one tried to hustle a megadeth cassette from me back in the day.

socialist · August 20, 2012

If anyone watches the Wake Up Dead video you will notice how great Dave ellefson's headbanging skills were. watch him and you will know how i used to headbang.

cybercoma · August 23, 2012

Mustaine doesn't get enough credit for his contributions to Metallica. Some of their best stuff is through him.

bleeding heart · August 23, 2012

I think the fact we are talking about some crazy claims made by a musician at a concert says more about us than it does him. Dave is an awsome musician, but hes also a hard-core conspiracy theorist going back years not to mention a heroin addict.

I guess Im wondering why his opinion on politics even warrants discussion. We seem to have this obsession with everything actors, actresses and musicians have to say about any topic.

Which is why I posted it on this particular forum, of course.

socialist · August 23, 2012

Mustaine doesn't get enough credit for his contributions to Metallica. Some of their best stuff is through him.

That is true. Kill 'Em All was a great albums and one of my personal all-time favourites. Hit The Lights, Motorbreath, Seek and Destroy are great classic metal tunes. Too bad Dave acted the fool during the cross country van ride. But hey, he was young. He did great work with Megadeth. We had two great bands, until Metallica sold out with their commercial Black album. I think Master Of Puppets was my favourite Metallica record.

Shady · August 23, 2012

Mustaine doesn't get enough credit for his contributions to Metallica. Some of their best stuff is through him.

Good point. He's in one of their documentaries a couple of years ago. He was still upset about having to leave the band bsck in the day.

socialist · August 23, 2012

Good point. He's in one of their documentaries a couple of years ago. He was still upset about having to leave the band bsck in the day.

You would realize why it had to happened if you understood the history of metallica.

cybercoma · August 24, 2012

Yeah, but James Hetfield was an alcoholic douchebag for almost the entirety of the bands career.

As far as I'm concerned, Metallica died in the bus crash with Cliff Burton.

bleeding heart · August 24, 2012

Yeah, but James Hetfield was an alcoholic douchebag for almost the entirety of the bands career.

Drummer Lars isn't exactly endearing, either.

Moron rockers with plenty of talent is an old story indeed.

socialist · August 24, 2012

Drummer Lars isn't exactly endearing, either.

Moron rockers with plenty of talent is an old story indeed.

How many rockers are, endearing, other than Tom Araya?

bleeding heart · August 24, 2012

How many rockers are, endearing, other than Tom Araya?

I'm assuming that plenty of them are really awesome individuals, with charm to spare.

Ulrich isn't one of them; at least, he comes across as a pompous little windbag.

Maybe he's ok, if you know him personally, however. Anything's possible.

socialist · August 24, 2012

I'm assuming that plenty of them are really awesome individuals, with charm to spare.

Ulrich isn't one of them; at least, he comes across as a pompous little windbag.

Maybe he's ok, if you know him personally, however. Anything's possible.

Lars is Lars. He marches to his own drummer. he's not worried about hurting feelings. i don't think you really know much about the real metallica.

Shady · August 25, 2012

Yeah, but James Hetfield was an alcoholic douchebag for almost the entirety of the bands career.

As far as I'm concerned, Metallica died in the bus crash with Cliff Burton.

That might be a bit of a stretch. They produced way too much good music after Burton died for that to be true. That's not taking anything away from Burton though, he was fantastic.

cybercoma · August 25, 2012

That might be a bit of a stretch. They produced way too much good music after Burton died for that to be true. That's not taking anything away from Burton though, he was fantastic.

Yeah, you're right. ...ANd Justice for All, as well as their eponymous album are both great. Just about everything after that sucks though. I'm even willing to give credit to Load if pressed, but let's not push it.

j44 · August 25, 2012

That might be a bit of a stretch. They produced way too much good music after Burton died for that to be true. That's not taking anything away from Burton though, he was fantastic.

Yeah, I can give a band a break if they can produce more than a few great albums. All of that great music is no easy task. Most bands have one or two good/decent albums in them. The fact that any band can be great for 10 years? I'll let a few bad albums pass.

That being said, St. Anger was dreadful.

socialist · August 25, 2012

Yeah, I can give a band a break if they can produce more than a few great albums. All of that great music is no easy task. Most bands have one or two good/decent albums in them. The fact that any band can be great for 10 years? I'll let a few bad albums pass.

That being said, St. Anger was dreadful.

St. Anger was awful, as were Load, Re-Load, and the terrible Death Magnetic. Metallica lost it's way once it catered to the commercial audience. I don't feel Megadeth sold out to the extent of Metallica. Wake Up Dead was the defining son in Megadeth's career.

Moonlight Graham · August 25, 2012

Mustaine doesn't get enough credit for his contributions to Metallica. Some of their best stuff is through him.

Meh, he wrote The Four Horsmen (great song) but that's about all the great stuff he did on the first record writing-wise. He was really good with them though, he's a great guitarist and could shred on their early demos even faster than Kirk Hammett. Always hated Mustaine's vocals with Megadeth though, sounds like an idiot lol. Could never totally get into that band. Prefer Metallica and Slayer for trash metal.

Edited August 25, 2012 by Moonlight Graham

Moonlight Graham · August 25, 2012

Yeah, but James Hetfield was an alcoholic douchebag for almost the entirety of the bands career.

As far as I'm concerned, Metallica died in the bus crash with Cliff Burton.

James was an alcoholic, but not a drunk douchebag like Dave. Dave would get very violent, get in fist-fights with people, once broke a guy's leg he said in the Some Kind of Monster documentary.

Cliff was amazing, the Hendrix of bass players IMO. But I really like the album "...And Justice For All" after he died, but it still had the classical/acoustic parts inspired by him like "To Live Is To Die". It would be a wonder where Metallica would have been had Cliff lived. Maybe they wouldn't have sold out so much.

Moonlight Graham · August 25, 2012

St. Anger was awful, as were Load, Re-Load, and the terrible Death Magnetic. Metallica lost it's way once it catered to the commercial audience. I don't feel Megadeth sold out to the extent of Metallica. Wake Up Dead was the defining son in Megadeth's career.

Agree St. Anger was crap, as was most of Re-Load. I love Load though, it's not thrash metal but it's a great album based on its own merits IMO. I like Death Magnetic, it doesn't quite has the same angry edge as their early stuff, I think you get softer when you get older, have a family, go through therapy/rehab.

James doesn't hate the world anymore, and he permanently damaged his voice toward the end of the Black Album tour. Their live shows haven't been the same since. His voice live from 1988-1993 was incredible. I worship their "Live Shit: Binge & Purge" 3-disc CD from 1993. They should have re-recorded a few of their hit songs from the shitty-produced early albums because they sounded so much better 88-93', rerecord stuff like Four Horsemen, Creeping Death, Fade To Black.

dre · August 25, 2012

Meh, he wrote The Four Horsmen (great song) but that's about all the great stuff he did on the first record writing-wise. He was really good with them though, he's a great guitarist and could shred on their early demos even faster than Kirk Hammett. Always hated Mustaine's vocals with Megadeth though, sounds like an idiot lol. Could never totally get into that band. Prefer Metallica and Slayer for trash metal.

I like Megadeth more than Metallica. I had a hard time listening to anything Metallica did after AJFA.

I like slayer 5 times as much as both the other two put together.

bleeding heart · August 25, 2012

Lars is Lars. He marches to his own drummer. he's not worried about hurting feelings. i don't think you really know much about the real metallica.

I was a big fan in the eighties, and I still think of them fondly.

But Lars is a tool.

Just because we enjoy someone's talent doesn't mean we can't recognize when they behave like horses' asses.

Billy Bob Thornton is a fantastic actor, seriously brilliant. Also a douchebag. (I strongly recommend watching his interview with Jian Ghomeshi to get the full picture of this petulant little boy.)

Picasso, whose talent is, let's just say, legendary, was by most accounts a fairly rotten human being.

A lot of actors wouldn't even work with Peter Sellers.

And there's Ted Nugent...ye gods.

And so on and so on.

I hasten to add that none of this is very important to me. I like bands for their music, actors for their acting. If and when they are jerks, that's fine. But it is what it is.

Moonlight Graham · August 25, 2012

I was a big fan in the eighties, and I still think of them fondly.

But Lars is a tool.

Just because we enjoy someone's talent doesn't mean we can't recognize when they behave like horses' asses.

I think he's a tool in some things, then a good guy in others. He has a massive ego and is a bit of baby, as seen in the Some Kind of Monster film, he would have a tantrum when Hetfield could only work half a day because he was still recovering from alcoholism...kind of an ass. Plus the Napster thing. He is a major money-monger, it's more like Metallica Inc. now.

But when I see him interact with fans, like videos of backstage meet/greets, he's a very nice guy, gives people all the attention in the world & is very engaged.

One things for sure, after reading the Metallica biography "Enter Night" by Mick Wall, I realized how vital Lars was to their success. He had a hige hand behind the scenes, he was insanely ambitious, he got them to the top early on, & also wanted Metallica to be the biggest band in the world and there would have been no Black Album success without him. He also contributed a lot arrangement-wise with the songs. Most songs were composed with James/Lars stuck in a room banging things out, then presenting the songs to the rest of the band.

kimmy · August 25, 2012

Metallica had a sold out show in Vancouver last night and are playing a second one tonight. Yesterday they added a third show for Monday night. Tickets are $5, and all proceeds are going to the Vancouver food bank.

It's not strictly from the goodness of their hearts... they're filming a concert movie, and they're adding the 3rd show to get more footage. Still pretty cool, though.

Drummer Lars isn't exactly endearing, either.

Moron rockers with plenty of talent is an old story indeed.

Whatever else may be said about Lars, I'm pretty sure he's not a moron. He strikes me as a pretty bright and articulate guy, which probably makes him like Einstein by drummer standards.