Homeschooling

[socialist]

The role of the state is not parenting. But more and more they want to take the responsibility away from the parent and place that on the state. That would be fine if the state would take responsibility for the deficiencies of the system that really can't give a child the one on one with the parents that is required for healthy emotional growth. Do you want the state to mold your child or do you think that is a parents responsibility?

It's all about taking control away from the parents, and that is not something no one should advocate for.

the state as you callously put it, is concerned about all children and want whats best for all children. public daycares and public schools are what is best for all children and the earlier the better. parents are too concerned about their careers to give kids quality time so the kids get their quality time in daycares and schools away from possible intolerance and bigotry.

[socialist]

Never has a troll been so obvious. Clearly you are in the minority here, which is a good thing.

Yes it is great for creating mindless automatons that are smart enough to work the machines, but stupid enough to not ask why they need to run the machines. If you want the herd mentality, then yes public school is the best at training sheep who don't question things.

i bet you went to a public school. am i right?

[GostHacked]

the state as you callously put it, is concerned about all children and want whats best for all children. public daycares and public schools are what is best for all children and the earlier the better. parents are too concerned about their careers to give kids quality time so the kids get their quality time in daycares and schools away from possible intolerance and bigotry.

Sure, so when can we start with your kids?

[socialist]

Sure, so when can we start with your kids?

my two kids are in daycare learning tolerance.

[GostHacked]

i bet you went to a public school. am i right?

Oh this should be fun.

Yes I went to a public school.

[GostHacked]

my two kids are in daycare learning tolerance.

Tolerance of what?

[bleeding heart]

Why do you bother debating with a caricature like "socialist"?

Damn!

That is, sincerely, a good question.

[socialist]

Tolerance of what?

tolerance of different people. rich poor etc.

[socialist]

Oh this should be fun.

Yes I went to a public school.

and you claim to be an intelligent free thinker. have you thanked the public system for educating you for free?

[socialist]

Damn!

That is, sincerely, a good question.

it's hard for people like you to debate this subject because you know so little about it so you get frustrated when your ridiculous arguments get exposed.

[Spiderfish]

my two kids are in daycare learning tolerance.

Well, they obviously aren't getting their lessons in tolerance from you.

[socialist]

Well, they obviously aren't getting their lessons in tolerance from you.

i don't see them too often as they are mostly with their mom. when they are with me they learn to treat all people equally and they learn to protect the environment. i instill quality values on my kids.

[GostHacked]

and you claim to be an intelligent free thinker. have you thanked the public system for educating you for free?

The free thinking part I obtained after I was done with public school.

[socialist]

The free thinking part I obtained after I was done with public school.

it's easy to claim that now.

[bleeding heart]

it's hard for people like you to debate this subject because you know so little about it so you get frustrated when your ridiculous arguments get exposed.

I'm tolerant enough to give this some consideration.......................

.................nope. After careful thought, I must disagree.

[socialist]

I'm tolerant enough to give this some consideration.......................

.................nope. After careful thought, I must disagree.

you add nothing to the debate again. do you have kids BH? do you send them to public school?

[Spiderfish]

i instill quality values on my kids.

But according to you, that's not your job. According to you, you should hand over your kids to the public system as soon as possible to avoid your corrupting them.

Edited August 7, 2012 by Spiderfish

[socialist]

But according to you, that's not your job. According to you, you should hand over your kids to the public system as soon as possible to avoid your corrupting them.

what they learn in the public system is the same they learn at home. i dont confuse them.

[GostHacked]

it's easy to claim that now.

It's easy to claim now because it is the truth. The public school does not teach people to be critical thinkers. The public school turns out people like you who have no critical thought on their own and hauls the government line around saying that we need to indoctrinate (now there is a word that exudes tolerance) kids as young as one year old as to not have bigotry and intolerance built in.

Leave the schooling of maths, languages, history, sciences to the schools (even I have my reservations there) and leave the parenting up to the parents.

I was not a good student, I failed come classes and many tests and failed to have some projects done on time. My average in highschool overall was about a 60%. I did not like the idea of someone molding me other than my parents. I really did not even like it when my parents molded me.

My parents were also agnostic and taught tolerance through their actions and words. Good thing my dad taught me not to tolerate idiots. No idea why I have entertained the likes of you for so long.

Your posting is very familiar though, almost like someone created a nice 'character' account. What you propose here does nothing for free and critical thinkers, it actually stifles just that.

[GostHacked]

what they learn in the public system is the same they learn at home. i dont confuse them.

So where is the problem?

[socialist]

So where is the problem?

the problem is parents who don't teach tolerance and environmental responsibility. anyways, i'm done arguing with you. public schools will be around forever. parents can't afford to live off one income. parents have no choice and they send their kids to the public school. things are working out well.

[betsy]

the problem is parents who don't teach tolerance and environmental responsibility.

Ahhh....

[betsy]

Sounds just like the churches now doesnt it?

No, there's a big difference. Naturally, Christian parents would want to instill their Christian values to their children. Or any other values that the parents adhere to. And they've got every right!

[betsy]

I hope you're right, but with some of the extreme comments that are being put forth on this thread, obviously not all of society has learned this lesson.

With the push towards government run, government subsidized daycare programs that we saw from the Liberals a few years ago, the concept has gotten more subtle, but it exists. How young do we want the Government to take control of the upbringing of our kids? I realize the education system takes their role of co-parent seriously, but is this the role we really want them to play?

Schools are turning into brainwashing institutions for whatever ideology they support! I'm really rooting for homeschooling now! I wonder what are the laws about that - like let say opening your home to homeschool kids in the neighborhood (like kids of friends and family,) since a lot of parents won't have the time to do it.

[betsy]

Should we differentiate between 'government' and 'community' here ? We have an education system now, what's the matter with having early education to make it easier for working parents to manage ?

Well a few years back, one of my daycare kindergarten kids came home from school spouting off about the environment! I also heard that the schools go out of their way to show gay lifestyle as the norm.

I mean....these are very young children! Schools have no business playing "parents" and opposing the values being taught at home. That creates a conflict, confuses the child and is taking the right away from a parent.