Romney Derangement Syndrome

jefferiah · August 13, 2012

Romney also likes to fire people. He said that! He plainly said that he gets enjoyment out of people losing their jobs.

Do you see how this is all a very, very stupid game?

Hmmm....

Well no, I don't think that is a good example. Romney said he likes to be "able" to fire people. I have no problem with the literal meaning of that. I think he meant that literally. Being able to do something is not the same as doing it. Saying you like to be able to fire people is not the same as saying you like to fire people. That's not a matter of context either. That is the literal meaning.

Punked is asserting that what Obama meant to say was:

If you've got a business, you didn't build roads and bridges.

That makes no sense. I may well be a moron, but I know enough to realize that makes no sense whatsoever.

Edited August 13, 2012 by jefferiah

jefferiah · August 13, 2012

"Ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Romney said that!

Is Romney trying to say that he didn't say that?

punked · August 13, 2012

Is Romney trying to say that he didn't say that?

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Edited August 13, 2012 by punked

jefferiah · August 13, 2012

He says he doesn't actually enjoy the act of firing people even though he said. "I like firing people." How do you feel about that one? Romney loves the act of firing people or not?

He said he likes to be 'able' to fire people. If I were businessman, I would probably appreciate that freedom as well.

So in your case, you actually are misquoting Romney, whereas in mine, I am correctly quoting Obama.

punked · August 13, 2012

He said he likes to be 'able' to fire people. If I were businessman, I would probably appreciate that freedom as well.

So in your case, you actually are misquoting Romney, whereas in mine, I am correctly quoting Obama.

How about this one "I'm not concerned about the very poor." That is the sentence.

punked · August 13, 2012

What did he mean on this one?

"I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed."- Romney connecting on also being unemployed.

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jefferiah · August 13, 2012

How about this one "I'm not concerned about the very poor." That is the sentence.

You are right. That is a sentence. Brilliant.

punked · August 13, 2012

You are right. That is a sentence. Brilliant.

Sentence from Romney who apparently has no concern about the poor right?

jefferiah · August 13, 2012

How about this one "I'm not concerned about the very poor." That is the sentence.

Now, in that case, what he said was he is not concerned because there is a social safety net.

You will no doubt repeat your tired argument about how I am not quoting Obama's entire speech again. But once again, I would point out a distinction. Even if you add the surrounding words, beginning to end, your assertion that the "that" in "you didnt build that" means roads and bridges, is still nonsensical.

Edited August 13, 2012 by jefferiah

punked · August 13, 2012

Now, in that case, what he was he is not concerned because there is a social safety net.

You will no doubt repeat your tired argument about how I am not quoting Obama's entire speech again. But once again, I would point out a distinction. Even with all the words surrounding Obama's speech, in his sentence it would still be ridiculous to assume "that" means roads and bridges.

I will take this new course as your admission that Obama said what he said.

What is that? Now you want me to quote the sentence before and after? I don't need to do that you just told me I didn't. The take away is Romney has no concern for the poor. That is the sentence who cares what the context of the paragraph that sentence is in right? These are your rules.

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jefferiah · August 13, 2012

What is that? Now you want me to quote the sentence before and after? I don't need to do that you just told me I didn't. The take away is Romney has no concern for the poor. That is the sentence who cares what the context of the paragraph that sentence is in right? These are your rules.

Once again, you can quote Obamas entire speech, but it still sounds ridiculous to assert that

"If you've got a business, you didnt build that."

actually means "If you've got a business, you didnt build roads and bridges."

That statement just doesnt make sense.

Romney's actually does change meaning.

punked · August 13, 2012

Once again, you can quote Obamas entire speech, but it still sounds ridiculous to assert that

"If you've got a business, you didnt build that."

actually means "If you've got a business, you didnt build roads and bridges."

That statement just doesnt make sense.

Romney's actually does change meaning.

Just like "I am not concerned for the poor." Really can't be sold as anything else then Mitt Romney doesn't care about the poor. Although we both know that isn't what he meant. I am just not dumb enough to try to take 7 words out of context and sell it to mean something that clearly doesn't fit in the speech.

I can keep pointing out even Mitt Romney makes grammatical mistakes and you can keep pretending you don't understand. Here is a great out of context quote.

"I'm Mitt Romney—and yes Wolf, that's also my first name."- In this one Romney is such a dumb person he doesn't even know his own name. That is the quote what does he mean by that.

Edited August 13, 2012 by punked

BubberMiley · August 13, 2012

That statement just doesnt make sense.

Of course it does. If you have a successful business, you need infrastructure to survive. You can't do it on your own. So you may have worked hard and created your business yourself, you also relied on others to make it successful, including road and bridge builders.

But I don't expect you to understand, because I realize you're ideologically incapable.

Shady · August 14, 2012

He said "If you've got a business, you didn't build that...somebody else made that happen."

Now, are you asserting that by "that" he meant "roads and bridges"?

Are you suggesting that the proper interpretation of that sentence should be:

"If you've got a business, you didn't build roads and bridges."

Sorry, Bubber. That just does not fly. Shady is right on that one.

Exactly. It's fairly obvious except to any Obama fanboys. If Obama was referring to roads and bridges, he would have said "you didn't build those."

I can't believe they're still trying to spin that. And by "that" I don't mean roads and bridges! :lol:

I guess when Obama mocked that business owners think that they're so smart, or work harder, he was also referring to roads and bridges. :rolleyes:

Edited August 14, 2012 by Shady

blueblood · August 14, 2012

Of course it does. If you have a successful business, you need infrastructure to survive. You can't do it on your own. So you may have worked hard and created your business yourself, you also relied on others to make it successful, including road and bridge builders.

But I don't expect you to understand, because I realize you're ideologically incapable.

And where does the funding for all those bridges and roads come from?

It comes from sucessful businesses and the people that work for them. Infrastructure isn't a necessity, but one heck of a facilitator. Unless you want a gong show like venezuela, it would behoove one to not put the screws to those who contribute to society.

I don't expect you to understand...

guyser · August 14, 2012

And where does the funding for all those bridges and roads come from?

From working men and women paying taxes.

Same place farmers get their subsidies.

Infrastructure isn't a necessity, but one heck of a facilitator.

Huh?

I don't expect you to understand...

Yea about that......

BubberMiley · August 14, 2012

And where does the funding for all those bridges and roads come from?

Uh...people working together by contributing resources through taxation. That was the point of the whole speech. You're the one who is supposed to be arguing that education and infrastructure and positive economic conditions don't matter. :blink:

Shady · August 14, 2012

Uh...people working together by contributing resources through taxation. That was the point of the whole speech. You're the one who is supposed to be arguing that education and infrastructure and positive economic conditions don't matter.

Well, you got the people working part right. Not necessarily together though. Sometimes in competition with eachother. Roads and bridges are the result of, not the reason for. All those darn people that Obama is amazed that they think are so smart, and work hard.

Shady · August 15, 2012

Even more Romney derangement!

Biden says Romney wants to put black people back in chains! :lol:

"he wants to put y'all back in chains."

Biden has become completely unhinged! Anybody else think he might be senile?

Shakeyhands · August 15, 2012

Even more Romney derangement!

Biden says Romney wants to put black people back in chains!

"he wants to put y'all back in chains."

Biden has become completely unhinged! Anybody else think he might be senile?

He has?????? Where does he say anything about blacks?

Your reading comprehension is low but your partisan hackery is high, young one...

punked · August 15, 2012

Even more Romney derangement!

Biden says Romney wants to put black people back in chains!

"he wants to put y'all back in chains."

Biden has become completely unhinged! Anybody else think he might be senile?

Yah Shady you know Romney made the SAME statement in a USA today article in December right? Of course you don't because you dent know anything. Conservatives around these boards must hate you. You are as bad for the right as socialist is for the left

WOW.

Shady · August 15, 2012

He has?????? Where does he say anything about blacks?

Your reading comprehension is low but your partisan hackery is high, young one...

Come'on man, stop being so disingenuous. He's talking infront of a predominantly African-American audience, and he says Romney wants to put y'all back in chains. He's a race-baiting lowlife.

punked · August 15, 2012

Come'on man, stop being so disingenuous. He's talking infront of a predominantly African-American audience, and he says Romney wants to put y'all back in chains. He's a race-baiting lowlife.

Nope it is you who is race baiting. On another topic my American side of the family comes from WHITE IRISH immigrants who were indentured servants. Other words American white slaves. That has nothing to do with their race but their social class. Welcome to history class shady deal with it.

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Shady · August 15, 2012

Nope it is you who is race baiting. On another topic my American side of the family comes from WHITE IRISH immigrants who were indentured servants. Other words American white slaves. That has nothing to do with their race but their social class. Welcome to history class shady deal with it.

LOL, you sound ridiculous! :lol:

punked · August 15, 2012

LOL, you sound ridiculous!

Yah it is ridiculous at one time in America the poor were in slaved due to taking out debts to live. That is the America Romney wants and that has nothing to do with race. Sorry Shady but no one is putting the shackles back on anyone White, Black, Asian, or other no matter what Romney wants. BTW as you can see that has nothing to do with race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servant#America