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If I refuse to install cameras and black box on my boat when I go fishing I'm forced to take a human observer. We could do the same for politicians who similarly refuse to get with the program.

Who chooses them?

I'd go with a randomly picked citizen's assembly myself...

To whom are they accountable? How can they be trusted with state secrets? How are they trained to know what's to be kept secret and what's not?

Are you such a pedant that you really need to have the difference between individual privacy and state secrecy spelled out every time you come across a discussion involving greater government transparency and accountability?

No, I'm a pedant insofar as I expect people to use the English language properly, express themselves with it clearly, and take responsibility for themselves when they don't.

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Who chooses them?

http://www.archipelago.ca/

To whom are they accountable?

Everyone, but starting from the bottom up.

How can they be trusted with state secrets?

The same way that Privacy Commissioners can be trusted with individual privacy.

How are they trained to know what's to be kept secret and what's not?

In the manner of PC's but with the obvious twist.

No, I'm a pedant insofar as I expect people to use the English language properly, express themselves with it clearly, and take responsibility for themselves when they don't.

I hear you loud and clear, I get precisely the same way when it comes to the things politicians and senior government officials tell me.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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i've been studying social justice for a number o years now. i know more about social justice than most. it seems to m that most canadians arent concerned about social justice which makes this country shameful. i would like to know what people on here think the definition of social justice is. there are many people out there who think they know what sj is but distort it so badly that its embarrassing. tell what you think sj is and ill let you know if you have an actual clue about the concept. dont bother posting if you cant post an intelligent definition of sj as i have no time to debate with the weak minded followers of capitalism.

I get it! Social justice is about a departure from capitalism! And you are underscoring this by refusing to capitalize the first letter of each sentence you write! Down with capitalism, and it's bastard cousin, capitalization!

For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.

Nelson Mandela

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I get it! Social justice is about a departure from capitalism! And you are underscoring this by refusing to capitalize the first letter of each sentence you write! Down with capitalism, and it's bastard cousin, capitalization!

We can bring Capitalism down with complete and total illiteracy taught by a self important,narcissistic kid who thinks spelling and grammar don't matter but Karl Marx does...

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

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I get it! Social justice is about a departure from capitalism! And you are underscoring this by refusing to capitalize the first letter of each sentence you write! Down with capitalism, and it's bastard cousin, capitalization!

:) Jesus, Melanie, you're on a roll!

“There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver."

--Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007

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I get it! Social justice is about a departure from capitalism! And you are underscoring this by refusing to capitalize the first letter of each sentence you write! Down with capitalism, and it's bastard cousin, capitalization!

I kid because I care, but I think you meant "its bastard cousin." ;)
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I kid because I care, but I think you meant "its bastard cousin." ;)

Socialist has helped me to see the error of my ways. Together, we will free the world from oppressive spelling, grammar and punctuation laws, which have been created for the sole purpose of controlling the masses. Viva le revolution!

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For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.

Nelson Mandela

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Socialist has helped me to see the error of my ways. Together, we will free the world from oppressive spelling, grammar and punctuation laws, which have been created for the sole purpose of controlling the masses. Viva le revolution!

WORKERS...er...(unemployable illiterate wannabe teachers)...OF THE WORLD....UNITE!!!!

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

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WORKERS...er...(unemployable illiterate wannabe teachers)...OF THE WORLD....UNITE!!!!

Why do you have to take this thread off-topic with a childish insult? Grow up please.

Thankful to have become a free thinker.

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Why don't we keep this civil?

I agree. Social justice means giving the 99% a fighting chance and to keep them from being exploited by the 1%.

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I agree. Social justice means giving the 99% a fighting chance and to keep them from being exploited by the 1%.

Nice tagline, how do you intent to do that though? Define what you mean by this as it is extremely vague...

Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst

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Nice tagline, how do you intent to do that though? Define what you mean by this as it is extremely vague...

how is it vague. social justice is about equality for all. how hard is that to figure out.

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how is it vague. social justice is about equality for all. how hard is that to figure out.

What is equality? Everyone drives the same car, wears the same clothes and shoes, has the same watch? They have the same car? Is equality providing people with an opportunity to advance if they re competent or is equality giving resources to those unwilling to work for said resources?

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What is equality? Everyone drives the same car, wears the same clothes and shoes, has the same watch? They have the same car? Is equality providing people with an opportunity to advance if they re competent or is equality giving resources to those unwilling to work for said resources?

no making sure everyone has equal access to things. have you ever seen the documentary" the story of stuff". maybe you should watch it and learn something. i watched it at university.

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no making sure everyone has equal access to things. have you ever seen the documentary" the story of stuff". maybe you should watch it and learn something. i watched it at university.

Yeah, I doubt you have ever set foot in a university. You use vague terms that can be interpreted in so many ways and you cannot define equality or equal opportunity.

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Yeah, I doubt you have ever set foot in a university. You use vague terms that can be interpreted in so many ways and you cannot define equality or equal opportunity.

watch the documentary. you might learn something. then yap.

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It obviously hasn't helped you. You talk without knowing anything...

then dont watch it. i dont think you would understand it anyways.

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I wasn't planning on watching it... I doubt it will be of any value.

do you want a link? it is a wonderful piece.

oh well here it is. 20 minutes that will change your life. it changed mine.

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do you want a link? it is a wonderful piece.

oh well here it is. 20 minutes that will change your life. it changed mine.

My life is fine as it is thank you very much...

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