It's not a protest, demonstration or strike, IT"S ANARCHY!

[g_bambino]

It is free for anyone falling into a set out criteria.

Such as?

[punked]

Such as?

Age 15-21 completed grade 9.

[g_bambino]

Age 15-21 completed grade 9.

Does PST in any way cover education costs?

[punked]

Does PST in any way cover education costs?

I am not sure what you are asking here?

[g_bambino]

I am not sure what you are asking here?

Are any of the funds collected as provincial sales tax used by the provincial government to pay for the cost of the public education system?

[ed.: c/e]

Edited May 27, 2012 by g_bambino

[punked]

Are any of the funds collected as provincial sales tax used by the provincial government to pay for the cost of the public education system?

[ed.: c/e]

Yah and part of that money goes into the University system as well to bring down the cost of University. I think what people here are saying is more should be collected so the University system could be as free as the rest of "public school".

[g_bambino]

Yah...

Then high school isn't free for people age 15-21 who've completed grade 9; whenever they buy something, they pay a tax that funds the public education system. I suppose that if they make purchases using money they didn't earn, then the education they get (plus whatever they purchase!) is free; but not for those that spend on taxes cash they earned.

[punked]

Then high school isn't free for people age 15-21 who've completed grade 9; whenever they buy something, they pay a tax that funds the public education system. I suppose that if they make purchases using money they didn't earn, then the education they get (plus whatever they purchase!) is free; but not for those that spend on taxes cash they earned.

That isn't an argument. I hate whenever anyone points out our collective tax payers dollars pay for things Conservatives act this is a reason for our dollars not to go towards other things.

[g_bambino]

That isn't an argument.

No.... It's a statement that backs up my argument: Education isn't free.

I hate whenever anyone points out our collective tax payers dollars pay for things...

Why on earth would you hate the acknowledgement of a verifiable fact?

Conservatives act this is a reason for our dollars not to go towards other things

I'm not sure how either Conservatives or "other things" factor into this discussion between you and I. The conversation into which you inserted yourself was focused specifically on education and the fact there's a cost thereof.

[ed.: -]

Edited May 28, 2012 by g_bambino

[Guest Peeves]

What is the difference? We can take your argument and apply to high school. Would it be any less true?

In a word yes. Those going to public high schools pay no tuition.

Your position therefore is not on point.

[Michael Hardner]

Yeah but he doesn't need to beat you in math, the imaginary rich kid needs to be prepared for the test, I can have 30% of your knowledge, but if I have a tutor spoon feed me the 30% that matters I have an advantage.

Math tests aren't knowledged based, nor are tests that assess you're thinking such as LSAT.

You can't get tutored into having a more logical or faster brain. Come to think of it, any college admission test that tests on logic is poppycock.

I had a professor who used to say, "You will use on a daily basis only about 10%-15% of the things I teach you in this class, the problem is I won't tell you which 15% it is." If you are tutored based on what you will be asked for the test then the advantage falls on you, more money=better tutors, more money also=more tutoring.

What course was this ? Knowledge isn't tested as much as ability to think/analyze, as you progress through education as far as I can see.

[Signals.Cpl]

Math tests aren't knowledged based, nor are tests that assess you're thinking such as LSAT.

You can't get tutored into having a more logical or faster brain. Come to think of it, any college admission test that tests on logic is poppycock.

I know what to expect, you don't, I prepare for the test by dedicating my entire time to practicing the important portions while you have to dedicate time on everything because you don't know what on the entrance exam. Overall you would be better off in college/university but I would get in because I would know the questions for the math, language, sciences, history etc questions. If there are 100 questions for the entrance exam 20 per subject I can do better then you if I know the questions or at least have a hint of them I can devote more time to the area that matters. For Canadian University and colleges you need to meet the prerequisites and generally they won't give you entrance exams, therefore I would say its mostly based on merit rather then doing good on one test.

What course was this ? Knowledge isn't tested as much as ability to think/analyze, as you progress through education as far as I can see.

It was an Electronic Devices course, and thinking and analyzing doesn't matter much If you have to do it at the exam while I had days, weeks or months to prepare my questions.

[Michael Hardner]

I know what to expect, you don't, I prepare for the test by dedicating my entire time to practicing the important portions while you have to dedicate time on everything because you don't know what on the entrance exam. Overall you would be better off in college/university but I would get in because I would know the questions for the math, language, sciences, history etc questions.

You have missed my entire point. Did you ever take an LSAT or practice exam ? Coaching helps but it won't make you pass unless you're on the bubble.

It was an Electronic Devices course, and thinking and analyzing doesn't matter much If you have to do it at the exam while I had days, weeks or months to prepare my questions.

Such a course is not at all the same animal as an LSAT exam. Not all tests are equal. This is why I said I'd like to learn more about the Greek system.

[Guest Peeves]

Is it getting better or worse? I think the government should start issuing free lollies, preferably without sticks. It's dangerous to run with a sucker stick in your mouth.

[GostHacked]

In a word yes. Those going to public high schools pay no tuition.

Your position therefore is not on point.

Public schools are paid for by taxes. They are not tuition free.

[Guest Peeves]

Public schools are paid for by taxes. They are not tuition free.

Tuition is not paid as in the common usage of the term. No one pays a tuition IF taxes pays the cost. If there is a private school then someone may pay a tuition which is separate from a tax paid education. If you wish to pursue the issue as a matter of semantics, of course you are free to do so, but, 'tuition' in general terms means someone pays directly for the education as in university or college.

Now one may also conclude as a life experience and reality that no 'thing' worth anything is free. Someone pays. What some students want,(and those like socialist union leader Sid Ryan

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/06/01/sid-ryan-the-case-for-zero-tuition/

OF of L President are lobbying for is for tax payers to pay the tuition en toto so it's free to students, but in reality as are all things of worth, never 'free.'

Edited June 12, 2012 by Peeves