It's not a protest, demonstration or strike, IT"S ANARCHY!

[Signals.Cpl]

It's called meritocracy. The richest kid in my school could not have tutored himself to beat me in math, it was not possible.

Yeah but he doesn't need to beat you in math, the imaginary rich kid needs to be prepared for the test, I can have 30% of your knowledge, but if I have a tutor spoon feed me the 30% that matters I have an advantage.

I had a professor who used to say, "You will use on a daily basis only about 10%-15% of the things I teach you in this class, the problem is I won't tell you which 15% it is." If you are tutored based on what you will be asked for the test then the advantage falls on you, more money=better tutors, more money also=more tutoring.

[eyeball]

You have to keep in mind it runs both ways. Proponents will put up Sweden as their model, but up until a couple years ago Sweden also had mandatory military service for example. Are a majority of Canadians willing to do something like that?

Count me in with the same caveat as dre's, no world policing. I'd go so far as to require a referendum with a super-majority before ever sending our troops abroad.

[Signals.Cpl]

Count me in with the same caveat as dre's, no world policing. I'd go so far as to require a referendum with a super-majority before ever sending our troops abroad.

Does the super-majority include assisting other nations in natural disasters? Like Haiti and the tsunami a few years go in SE Asia or the US in Katrina?

[eyeball]

Does the super-majority include assisting other nations in natural disasters? Like Haiti and the tsunami a few years go in SE Asia or the US in Katrina?

STFU

[Signals.Cpl]

STFU

Raw nerve buddy?

[eyeball]

Raw nerve buddy?

No, I'm just fed up with suffering fools gladly.

You do realize just how ridiculous it is to equate world policing with disaster relief don't you?

[Signals.Cpl]

No, I'm just fed up with suffering fools gladly.

You do realize just how ridiculous it is to equate world policing with disaster relief don't you?

Count me in with the same caveat as dre's, no world policing. I'd go so far as to require a referendum with a super-majority before ever sending our troops abroad.

You mean troops like we send to Haiti? Or when we send ships to the US for Katrina? Or DART for the Tsunami? They were all soldiers abroad, if you want a super majority before we go and help our allies, I want a super majority before we go and help anyone outside of Canada. Its only fair.

[dre]

You mean troops like we send to Haiti? Or when we send ships to the US for Katrina? Or DART for the Tsunami? They were all soldiers abroad, if you want a super majority before we go and help our allies, I want a super majority before we go and help anyone outside of Canada. Its only fair.

Yeah! Because bombing and killing folks that did nothing whatsoever to attack Canada is TOTALLY the same as disaster relief!

[Signals.Cpl]

Yeah! Because bombing and killing folks that did nothing whatsoever to attack Canada is TOTALLY the same as disaster relief!

If you are willing to deploy troops it should be an all or nothing deal, you cannot say that because you don't support foreign intervention we need a super majority while I don't support helping natural disaster but I need to STFU. You think one is important and the other isn't, I have a different opinion then you thus if we need a super majority for deploying troops on peacekeeping/peacemaking/peace-enforcing or war we should have the same requirements when sending troops to assist in disaster.

[Guest Peeves]

Know what I am tried of? Right wingers using Greece as the new Nazi. Here is something for you to think about. Greece isn't a left wing state, in a left wing state people pay taxes to pay for social programs. In Greece (which accumulated most of its over burdening debt under a CONSERVATIVE government who was cooking the books so they could get into the EU) people don't pay their taxes. It isn't a failed left wing state, or a failed right wing state it is just a failed state. This might shock you but it has nothing to do with left wing or right wing ideology and anyone who actually looks at what happened there would know that. Do some research,.

Oh?I read somewhere, actually in many places, that promising people what they wanted caused the entire collapse. " We want early retirement with full indexed pensions" OK vote for us and we'll give them.

"WE want, We want,we want WE WANT" and lo the unsupported sky's the limit dids't fall and the little piggy ran to save his bacon.

Quebec has that mentality don't you think?

More, We want more. More transfer payments, more Federal concessions.

No wonder their children expect free education and no ass spanking when they misbehave, it's a learned thing.

Edited May 27, 2012 by Peeves

[eyeball]

No wonder their children expect free education and no ass spanking when they misbehave, it's a learned thing.

Yep...We should probably start charging enrolment fees for kindergarten, hook em' when they're young.

[Guest Peeves]

Yep...We should probably start charging enrolment fees for kindergarten, hook em' when they're young.

Where did anyone suggest such draconian measures.

Do you think University should be free?

Including those fluff majors that will never result in a job? Or, those professional 'students' that continue year after year with no intention of graduating finally?

Or those students with parents earning a million a year?

If it's free, you often don't appreciate that it really isn't, just someone else gets to pay.

[punked]

Where did anyone suggest such draconian measures.

Do you think University should be free?

Including those fluff majors that will never result in a job? Or, those professional 'students' that continue year after year with no intention of graduating finally?

Or those students with parents earning a million a year?

If it's free, you often don't appreciate that it really isn't, just someone else gets to pay.

You know right now you are arguing against all free education. Do you think we can apply everything you have said to high school?

[Signals.Cpl]

You know right now you are arguing against all free education. Do you think we can apply everything you have said to high school?

Well if the government made University compulsory then they have to pay for it... high school is compulsory until age 16 except in Ontario and New Brunswick where its 18.

[punked]

Well if the government made University compulsory then they have to pay for it... high school is compulsory until age 16 except in Ontario and New Brunswick where its 18.

So high school is Compulsory until you are at the age where you actually have to attend it? That is a weird argument. I personally think students should have to pay tuition to go to University but what I am saying it these arguments people are making are the same arguments people made about high school and could be made today.

[Signals.Cpl]

So high school is Compulsory until you are at the age where you actually have to attend it? That is a weird argument. I personally think students should have to pay tuition to go to University but what I am saying it these arguments people are making are the same arguments people made about high school and could be made today.

You started high school at 16? I don't know about you,but I was a year from graduating at 16.

[Guest Peeves]

You know right now you are arguing against all free education. Do you think we can apply everything you have said to high school?

Not true. I never said any such thing. I never mentioned anything but University-college.

If you accuse me, prove it.

[punked]

You started high school at 16? I don't know about you,but I was a year from graduating at 16.

You better to look into the typical Canadian. Almost all Canadians enter high school at 16 or turn 16 with in the first 6 months of entering high school.

[punked]

Not true. I never said any such thing. I never mentioned anything but University-college.

If you accuse me, prove it.

What is the difference? We can take your argument and apply to high school. Would it be any less true?

[g_bambino]

Nobody said "everything" except you.

By not being in any way specific, it was you who said everything.

A few decades ago, this same argument, same talking points, were made in respect to making secondary school (high school) free for everyone.

High school is not free for anyone. It cannot be free for everyone.

[punked]

By not being in any way specific, it was you who said everything.

High school is not free for anyone. It cannot be free for everyone.

It is free for anyone falling into a set out criteria.

[guyser]

You better to look into the typical Canadian. Almost all Canadians enter high school at 16 or turn 16 with in the first 6 months of entering high school.

er...no

Generally 14.

Recall how many drove to the first day of high school?

[punked]

er...no

Generally 14.

Recall how many drove to the first day of high school?

I went to a 10-12 high school not a 9-12. Although I will change my argument to this could very well apply to grades 10-12. It doesn't make it any less true.

[guyser]

I went to a 10-12 high school not a 9-12.

Never heard of that.

Although I will change my argument to this could very well apply to grades 10-12. It doesn't make it any less true.

Still, Gr 10 would make them 15 which is more true

[punked]

Never heard of that.

Still, Gr 10 would make them 15 which is more true

It would make the majority of them 16 by the time first semester is over.