Canada is falling behind

[August1991]

I have no Internet references but I have been in the US and Europe recently.

Montreal, in my opinion, is dirtier than Washington DC.

I also felt safer in Baltimore than in Toronto.

New York City is more civilized than any Canadian city, said my Russian friend. In York Pennsylvania, she said it is better than Brockville Ontario. "You Canadians are dead", she said. "Americans stand up for themselves."

[takeanumber]

How deliciously anectdotal.

Here's one:

I went to Washington DC once, and I saw a homeless guy there, and yesterday, when I was downtown here in Calgary, I saw TWO homeless guys. Calgary has become way worse than Washington DC.

Oh, and another:

I know this guy, from the Intrenet, and he's always dumping on Canada with anectdotes, and he's a Conservative, and in the last election, the Conservatives got their asses handed to them. Because Canadians would much rather vote in a corrupt, decrepid government than to turn it over to people who, deep down inside, hate this country and feel ashamed to be Canadians.

[August1991]

Because Canadians would much rather vote in a corrupt, decrepid government than to turn it over to people who, deep down inside, hate this country and feel ashamed to be Canadians.

Sheila Copps is in to the three Gs. Guns, Gates, Ghettoes. Copps is Liberal PM PM red flag clueless.

Canada is becoming Argentina. BUT WE'LL GO DOWN PROUD!

[idealisttotheend]

four canadian cities in top 16 in world for expatriates

Vancouver 2nd best city to live in --many Canadian cities near the top

Canada third in world in human developement in 2002

...and previously 1st for six straight years

[applause]

  TN:

I went to Washington DC once, and I saw a homeless guy there, and yesterday, when I was downtown here in Calgary, I saw TWO homeless guys. Calgary has become way worse than Washington DC.

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  August

New York City is more civilized than any Canadian city, said my Russian friend. In York Pennsylvania, she said it is better than Brockville Ontario. "You Canadians are dead", she said. "Americans stand up for themselves."

This is less than scientific. I wonder if your negative approach to Canada does in fact represent your political bias (which you actually claimed as socialist once) and the people you talk to reinforce this.

Canada is becoming Argentina. BUT WE'LL GO DOWN PROUD!

Canada is becoming Argentina.... evidence????

[Guest eureka]

Once, some years ago, I attended a conference held at the Downtown Athletic Club in New York City. Arriving a little early, I decided to go for a short walk in the neighbourhood. As I exited the building, a Doorman stopped me and warned me that it might not be good for my health.

Apparently, even in such an upscale surrounding, it was highly dangerous to be on the street. In no Canadian city have I ever felt unsafe.

About a year ago, my son married an American girl at a very fancy location in Toronto (the Americans were paying). There were guests from a number of countries due to the nature of the work of the couple, and about eighty Americans. The Americans could not have been more effusive in their praise of Toronto and the freedom of safe movement they had. Many made plans for return visits to this haven of civility and culture.

It gave me pause to reconsider my own views since I had not thought well of the direction of Canadian cities.

[maplesyrup]

Maybe having gun control/registry, as opposed to little or no gun control, has something to do with it.

[kimmy]

I have not been around as much as some of you but I think the only time I have felt I was in a dangerous neighborhood in Canada was when I was exploring the cozy, touristy Gastown area in Vancouver, but went a few blocks too far and found myself on East Hastings.

-kimmy

[Stoker]

I have not been around as much as some of you  but I think the only time I have felt I was in a dangerous neighborhood in Canada was when I was exploring the cozy, touristy Gastown area in Vancouver, but went a few blocks too far and found myself on East Hastings.

Now that is an unsafe hood

[maplesyrup]

Now that is an unsafe hood

Compared to what?

Kitsilano, of course!

Detroit on New Year's Day! I'll take my chances at Hastings and Main, thanks.

[Stoker]

Compared to what?

Kitsilano, of course!

Never lived in Kits, but False Creek could be considered the exact opposite.........

[Cartman]

August Posted on Aug 15 2004, 04:44 AM

I also felt safer in Baltimore than in Toronto.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/01/city.murders.ap/

Baltimore homicides increased for the first time since 1998 as authorities said killings became more targeted, often in connection with the drug trade.

As of Wednesday, Baltimore reported 271 killings in 2003, compared with 253 in 2002. It was a 7 percent increase and the highest homicide total during the four-year tenure of Mayor Martin O'Malley, who campaigned on a pledge to reduce annual totals to 175.

http://canadaonline.about.com/library/week...y/aa072802a.htm

Murder rates are generally at least three times lower in Canada than in the United States. In 1999, Canada's murder rate was 1.8 per 100,000 population. In that same year, the U.S. homicide rate was 5.7 per 100,000 population in the United States, according to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics.

August, fear and risk are not necessarily the same thing. You might be afraid of walking through a cemetary in the dark, but that does not mean the walking dead are actually going to get you (just socialists).

[Big Blue Machine]

I felt more better in Canada than in the US.

[playfullfellow]

I have been to several large cities in Europe, the US and Canada. Daytime or night time, I always felt more secure in Canadian cities but that could be because of familiarity. I found some parts of US cities definate sections where you would not want the cab or bus to break down. I have found the same in some Canadian cities too and East Hastings definately comes to mind. Most European cities were not so much a problem and didn't notice too many so called ghetto areas. I would rank European cities definately cleaner then either US or Canadian cities. I found the US and Canadian cities were fairly similar cleanliless wise. Some areas were dirtier than others. As a preference, I like Canadian cities, I find most of the people friendlier there. I think we need to emphasize more pride in Canada, it is a good place to live.