Topaz Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 St Patrick's Day, and everyone out celebrating, for some too much. In London On., college students upset a CTV van and set it on fire. The police and the firemen tried to put it out the the young drunk and probably high on drugs, kept throwing their alcohol drinks on it to keep it going. What with these kids or drunks? Isn't it time for them to pay the piper and pay the cost for the van and have their name in the newpapers? What are the parents of these drunks think? What, if anything does the college have responsibilty? http://ca.news.yahoo.com/st-patricks-day-party-mob-sets-fires-battles-102502937.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 St Patrick's Day, and everyone out celebrating, for some too much. In London On., college students upset a CTV van and set it on fire. The police and the firemen tried to put it out the the young drunk and probably high on drugs, kept throwing their alcohol drinks on it to keep it going. What with these kids or drunks? Isn't it time for them to pay the piper and pay the cost for the van and have their name in the newpapers? What are the parents of these drunks think? What, if anything does the college have responsibilty? http://ca.news.yahoo.com/st-patricks-day-party-mob-sets-fires-battles-102502937.html There's a certain element who will get away with whatever you let them get away with. You'll note the police didn't really do much but stand back cowering in terror that they might have to do something for their $100k salaries. Hardly anyone was arrested, and those who were will, at worst, get a slap on the wrist. There's really no deterrent to violent behaviour of this sort so people don't feel restrained from engaging in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manny Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 The youth today know that our system is inherently corrupt and the only future we hold for them, is to be yoked up to the same corrupted apparatus we created and inherited, but today it is on public display for all to see. There is no hiding it. In the past there was at least a semlance of fairness and opportunity for all. This F-U attitude is what they are born and bred on, right from the get-go with liberal laissez faire, anything goes, say what you want, there is no moral compass, no right no wrong, no higher authority. There is no consequence, no afterlife. There is nothing. Only to consume, and be consumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Youth have amazing energy and life flowing through their veins. Unfortunately, some of them don't know how to properly and safely take that energy and life and set it loose on the world. These kids should have been in a club somewhere banging their heads to some heavy metal bands or banging a girlfriend. This is just acting like idiots. I blame the kids and parents. Both obviously stupid. If I ever had a kid and they did that I'd lop their gonads off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but under the new Tory crime law, isn't this terror these young people acted out, a form of terrorism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) You'll note the police didn't really do much but stand back cowering in terror that they might have to do something for their $100k salaries. Not that I don't agree with you, but you might want to check those numbers:2010 SALARY AND BENEFITSCadet $35,410 Cadet Recruit (While attending OPC) $35,410 Constable – 4th Class A $49,532 Constable – 4th Class B $54,730 Constable 3rd Class $61,931 Constable 2nd Class $69,837 Constable 1st Class $80,807 (with 8-16 yrs experience) $83,231 (with 17-22 yrs experience) $85,655 (over 23 yrs experience) $88,080 Source: http://www.police.london.ca/d.aspx?s=/Careers/Salary_Benefits.htm I don't see $100k on the list. Edited March 18, 2012 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 The police and the firemen tried to put it out the the young drunk and probably high on drugs, kept throwing their alcohol drinks on it to keep it going. What with these kids or drunks? The police are there as the kids are throwing alcohol on the fire to keep it going - so an even bigger question is what's wrong with the police?? Seriously. I blame the kids and parents. Both obviously stupid. Kids have minds of their own and they don't always do what mommy and daddy tell them to do. Every kid who rebels and/or does anything stupid, especially when they are drunk, doesn't have stupid parents; kids that age likely don't handle alcohol very well. If I ever had a kid and they did that I'd lop their gonads off. If they weren't arrested, how are the parents to know what they're doing at that age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Radio stations in SW Ontario are talking about this and one mother said that apparently each St Patrick Day, is a custom to burn a couch and this has been done for many many years but living on Fleming Street is not a easy because what the students do during the school year. Even though this area is known for out of control situations, this past weekend, has been the worse. There's a different mayor now and he won't take this, like the former mayor. I think some of the students arrested are going to be kick out of school for the year and the CTV could sue them for damages. Maybe they should keep the kids in school so they can get an education to pay for the damages. Police do have a year to get their act together and I think things will be different next year or next time when the students on Fleming Street, decide to burn a couch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Totally anecdotal but I hear many people talk about the generation of people in their early 20's currently as some of the most lazy entitled people they've ever come across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 I think what should happen is next year when the new student come to London, the landlord, the school, police and parents, should have a meeting at the college and tell them what is expected from them and get the ones renting the houses to sign a contract for ANY damages in the houses or the street, if they haven't done so. The parents aren't liable, the kids are over 18 and perhaps the landlords could kick them out, if these kids are also doing drugs. The police could explain any new change to the crime bill and scare the hell of out them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peeves Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Not that I don't agree with you, but you might want to check those numbers: I don't see $100k on the list. None of the numbers of course add up to the wages after overtime for court etc. Even O.T. for parking a cop car and officer at a construction site. Compensation & BenefitsAs a full-time employee of the Toronto Police Service you will be entitled to the following compensation and benefits: Family health plan Dental plan Life insurance Access to employee credit union Pension plan (OMERS) Paid vacation Education reimbursement Employee and Family assistance program * Additional details regarding the listed benefits can be obtained upon request Everything that is mentioned above. Being government workers, in addition to being overpaid and receiving crazy benefits, you will have lots of overtime pay. Note that those are only for the first few ranks, and only the basic salary (no raises - minimum pay). You will have a very strong union which will continue to rip taxpayers off In 2009, around 400 employees of the Toronto Police Services made more than $100,000 a year. This doesn't include benefits. The highest amount was more than $300,000. Note that the force is not hiring this year due to cuts in budget raises. Source(s): sunshine list toronto police site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLDB Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Totally anecdotal but I hear many people talk about the generation of people in their early 20's currently as some of the most lazy entitled people they've ever come across. Thats what they said about gen-exers 20 years ago. But, not really. Our generations didnt drive up the debt to insane levels at every level of government, but we'll be paying for it for decades after the boomers die out. Not to say I support what these idiots did in London or in Vancouver last year. With cameras everywhere it shouldnt be hard to find everyone involved and charge them accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 None of the numbers of course add up to the wages after overtime for court etc. Even O.T. for parking a cop car and officer at a construction site. OT is OT. People are entitled to earn extra if they're willing to give up their personal life and work longer than 48 hrs per week or whatever the contract stipulates otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peeves Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 OT is OT. People are entitled to earn extra if they're willing to give up their personal life and work longer than 48 hrs per week or whatever the contract stipulates otherwise. I agree. That wasn't your point though. You used half truths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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