Guest American Woman Posted February 28, 2012 Report Posted February 28, 2012 Romney's team are the ones who fought for an open primary. I agree primaries should be closed but when they aren't why not vote. Heck Romney himself voted in the 1991 Democratic primary. You raise a good point. Ultimately, I don't care for any of the candidates enough to vote for them - to give them my support. Quote
j44 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Posted February 29, 2012 I doubt it even if that happens, Obama is the safe choice..Romney would be the better choice but he's flippy floppy no one knows what he stands for I think people are getting a little too over confident of a 2nd term. A few months ago everyone was saying Obama wasn't going to get re-elected. Romney will move to the center after he secures the nomination. His pandering will be used in ads by the White House but it is not like the GOP have nothing to attack Obama with. Who knows what will happen between now and November. God, there could be a terrorist attack. The economy could go down, Europe could go down. To dismiss the affect a downturn would have on the election is a bit much. Remember how high Bush 41's approval ratings were after the Gulf War. They were sky high and then came 'It's the economy, stupid.' If (and that is a big if) Romney can become a better candidate and cut down the gaffes this could be a close race. I'd still put the President as the favorite right now but I wouldn't bet a lot of money on it. The GOP will portray Obama as a flip flopper as well. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Posted February 29, 2012 I think people are getting a little too over confident of a 2nd term. A few months ago everyone was saying Obama wasn't going to get re-elected. That's not true..."everyone" is a very high threshold in American politics. The economy could go down, Europe could go down. To dismiss the affect a downturn would have on the election is a bit much. Remember how high Bush 41's approval ratings were after the Gulf War. They were sky high and then came 'It's the economy, stupid.' Bush Sr. loss because of a strong third party candidate (Ross Perot) that split the Republican and Indie vote. Bill Clinton did not get a majority...just a plurality. If (and that is a big if) Romney can become a better candidate and cut down the gaffes this could be a close race. I'd still put the President as the favorite right now but I wouldn't bet a lot of money on it. The GOP will portray Obama as a flip flopper as well. The GOP does not have a compelling national candidate, and it is fractured along ideological lines. Obama has more experience than Romney or Santorum...as president. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted February 29, 2012 Report Posted February 29, 2012 Voter turn out is down again today in Mich. Romney is really bringing out the base eh Shady? Yep, he exceeded his vote totals in both primaries. Maybe next time you should wait for people to actually vote before you open your big mouth. Quote
Shady Posted February 29, 2012 Report Posted February 29, 2012 I think people are getting a little too over confident of a 2nd term. A few months ago everyone was saying Obama wasn't going to get re-elected. I love over confident Democrats. It reminds me of John Kerry on election day in 2004. Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Posted February 29, 2012 I love over confident Democrats. It reminds me of John Kerry on election day in 2004. Isn't that the presidential election that was rigged? or was that GWB first election? Quote
j44 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Posted February 29, 2012 Bush Sr. loss because of a strong third party candidate (Ross Perot) that split the Republican and Indie vote. Bill Clinton did not get a majority...just a plurality. I knew someone would mention Perot and undermine my argument. Quote
punked Posted February 29, 2012 Report Posted February 29, 2012 I love over confident Democrats. It reminds me of John Kerry on election day in 2004. You mean an election he lost by 5000 votes? Quote
Shady Posted February 29, 2012 Report Posted February 29, 2012 You mean an election he lost by 5000 votes? You must mean 3 million votes. 62 million votes for Bush, 59 million votes for Kerry. Quote
punked Posted March 1, 2012 Report Posted March 1, 2012 You must mean 3 million votes. 62 million votes for Bush, 59 million votes for Kerry. American Elections are decided by the electoral Collage if it was decided by popular vote we would be talking about President Gore. He lost by 5000 votes in Ohio quite a close race. Quote
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