olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) I couldn't let this get bogged down in an old thread Anonymous, Wikileaks and The access to information act are the best tools we have to learn about how crooked our politicians are, Toews should seriously resign before whatever they have on him gets out So In the words of The Rock, Toews .. Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock Here is a video from Anonymous North, it says in 7 days they will release to the public information on a new Toews scandal but if you don't want to watch the video I posted the transcript Go Anon! Hello, Mr. Toews. We are Anonymous. You have now had several days to reflect upon your actions. You have yet to apologize to the Canadian people for referring to them as supporters of pedophilia, or for attempting to infringe on their civil rights. You have stated that you are "open to amendments" on Bill C-30, which has been referred to committee for review. This is not sufficient. It has become very apparent that the purpose of Bill C-30 was never to prevent the distribution of child pornography. This is not merely a matter of opinion. You yourself, Mr. Toews, have submitted a piece to multiple media outlets, stating that Bill C-30 would allow police to crack down on, quote, "identity theft, online organized crime, and many Internet scams and frauds." In only a matter of days, we have gone from preventing child pornography to something as vague as cracking down on, quote "online organized crime". How convenient it is that Bill C-30 has come into prominence at the same time as Bill C-11, an online copyright bill which criminalizes Canadian citizens making personal copies of media they have legally purchased, would block Canadian access to websites deemed to be criminal by the authorities, and would force service providers to terminate service to customers for acts as innocuous as sharing mp3s. Interestingly, it would be possible under Bill C-11 to block Canadian access to YouTube, the site on which this video is hosted, on the basis that it facilitates online piracy. In short, this government's definition of "online organized crime" is so extreme that it includes online activities engaged in by the majority of Canadians. Most telling of all, Bill C-30 was originally named, "An Act to enact the Investigating and Preventing Criminal Electronic Communications Act and to amend the Criminal Code and other Acts". This intentionally vague and confusing title, obviously designed to obscure the bill's true purpose, was later changed to the "Protecting Children From Internet Predators Act", to better sell this massive intrusion of privacy to the Canadian people. Mr. Toews, your pattern of obfuscation and deception has only continued. We are growing impatient. Anonymous has warned you this is only beginning. Over the past several days, we have been inundated with messages exposing all manner of political wrongdoings and personal scandals, some of which extend to the very highest levels of your government. However, there is one incident, Mr. Toews, that the Canadian public would find particularly interesting. It is an act that you concealed so well that it does not appear in the affidavits from your divorce. In fact, we highly suspect neither your first wife, your former mistress, nor your political peers are aware of it. This incident pertains not only to your personal life, but to the direct abuse of your political position. Information about this incident has been submitted to us multiple times, independently, by both named and anonymous sources. Think very hard, Mr. Toews. As we said previously, we have no doubt that there are many skeletons in your closet. However, upon reflection, you should be able to determine which incident on the lengthy list of your illicit activities we are referring to. There is a very real possibility that after the revelation of this incident, Mr. Toews, that public outrage will not be necessary for you to find yourself without a job. It is already widely known that you have engaged in criminal activity to further your political career, as you did in 1999, when you were convicted of violating Manitoba's Election Finances Act during a provincial election. Perhaps you are under the illusion that if you simply allow enough time to pass, the public will lose interest in the controversy over Bill C-30, allowing it to pass unprotested. Perhaps you are under the impression that there is no scandal so great it cannot destroy your reputation and career. Perhaps you are under the impression that we are bluffing. We are not bluffing, Mr. Toews. You have seven days to reflect upon your personal and political crimes. After that, the Canadian people will be made aware of just how disgustingly unscrupulous and corrupt you are. And to the rest of those who support Bill C-30: do not believe for a moment that you are untouchable. Anonymous has received information implicating many of you in both political and personal scandals. This government has already been shaken by Mr. Toews' disgusting remarks and hypocrisy, it's attempts to legalize spying on Canadian citizens, and the revelation that you have used robocalls to intentionally keep voters away from the polls. Directing voters to incorrect or non-existent polling stations is voter suppression, and is illegal under the Canada Elections Act. Let the next seven days serve as a period of reflection for the entire House of Commons. Ask yourselves, how many more scandals can you afford? How many more of your crimes shall be revealed to the Canadian people? A government that allows it's citizens no secrets will not be allowed any secrets of it's own. Anonymous calls upon everyone and anyone who does not support governmental spying on Canadian citizens to submit information on any personal scandal, crime, or abuse of power committed by any politician who supports Bill C-30. An email address for this purpose can be found in the description below this video. Anonymous will never name or reveal it's sources. The Canadian people have spoken. They do not support Bill C-30. You ignore their outcry at the peril of your own careers. The True North is strong and free, and we will never surrender our freedom, least of all to fear-mongering hypocrites who attempt to wrench it from us through subterfuge and deception. Anonymous demands the immediate resignation of Vic Toews, the scrapping of Bills C-30 and C-11 in their entirety, and a formal apology to the people of Canada for referring to them as supporters of pedophilia, and more importantly, for attempting to infringe on their most basic civil rights. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us. Edited February 25, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 While this bill is dispicable,and Mr Toews is an odious character,I tend to agree with Greg Weston's take last week in that Anonymous is playing fire here... Their plan could very well backfire and make Mr. Toews,and his autocratic bullying friends in Ottawa,into sympathetic characters because of the personal nature of these threats and attacks.I'm guessing the revealing information that may come forth in 7 days might have something to do with children??? Anyway,as a former PM once said..."Reason over Passion"... I prefer this far more reasoned,and eviscerating,approach by Dr. Anne Cavoukian... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
cybercoma Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 On a related note, Anonymous also brought down the Ontario Police Chiefs website. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/02/25/anonymous-police-hack.html Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 I think the moment most Canadians feel sympathetic to Toews will be the moment hell freezes over How can anyone feel sympathetic to this man? He hasn't even apologized to Canadians for saying Canadians sided with child pornographers if they weren't supportive of this bill he supposedly hasn't even read... NOT ONE APOLOGY Yeah.. I don't think we'll feel any sympathy for ol' Vic, he hasn't shown any for us Quote
Shady Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Who gets to release personal information on the members of Anonymous? And why are they interfering in our politics and especially the specifics of particular domestic Canadian legislation? Who made Anonymous the politics sheriffs? Who made them the truth sheriffs? Who made them the legislation sheriffs? Who made them the arbitors of justice? And who holds them accountable? Quote
punked Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 While this bill is dispicable,and Mr Toews is an odious character,I tend to agree with Greg Weston's take last week in that Anonymous is playing fire here... Their plan could very well backfire and make Mr. Toews,and his autocratic bullying friends in Ottawa,into sympathetic characters because of the personal nature of these threats and attacks.I'm guessing the revealing information that may come forth in 7 days might have something to do with children??? Anyway,as a former PM once said..."Reason over Passion"... I prefer this far more reasoned,and eviscerating,approach by Dr. Anne Cavoukian... I fail to see how Toews privacy being invaded will show why Canadians should have their privacy invaded. There are things (cheating, drug use, crazy sex stuff, file sharing etc.) that are in a gray area as far as the law is concerned but that no one wants in public. Things like serve as a reminded that most people have private things they do they don't want others know about and this bill will only up their chances of being caught doing those things. If anything Anon is highlighting why privacy is important. Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Who gets to release personal information on the members of Anonymous? And why are they interfering in our politics and especially the specifics of particular domestic Canadian legislation? Who made Anonymous the politics sheriffs? Who made them the truth sheriffs? Who made them the legislation sheriffs? Who made them the arbitors of justice? And who holds them accountable? Its the governments fault for tabling extreme legislation such as the Copyright and Internet surveillance bills. Anonymous wasn't paying attention to Canada at all until this happened. You reap what you sow. Edited February 25, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
punked Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Who gets to release personal information on the members of Anonymous? And why are they interfering in our politics and especially the specifics of particular domestic Canadian legislation? Who made Anonymous the politics sheriffs? Who made them the truth sheriffs? Who made them the legislation sheriffs? Who made them the arbitors of justice? And who holds them accountable? What are you talking about Shady? You sound like a crazy person yelling at the clouds. What happened to "if you have nothing to hid you shouldn't care". Now its "how dare they invade the privacy of one man to save the privacy of 30 million" is it? Wow Shady you really can't operate with out talking points can you? Maybe you can email Toews and he can give you some but he seems to be sinking worse then you are/ Quote
Topaz Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 I agree, Anonymous could be taking this too far and it could back fire. Also, what could happen is someone else could pretend they are Anonymous, and take things even higher and play right into the government hands to get the Bill done. One former Ontario Tory once said, to get what you want, create a crisis, then get the job done. Quote
cybercoma Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Who gets to release personal information on the members of Anonymous? And why are they interfering in our politics and especially the specifics of particular domestic Canadian legislation? Who made Anonymous the politics sheriffs? Who made them the truth sheriffs? Who made them the legislation sheriffs? Who made them the arbitors of justice? And who holds them accountable? You get to. But first you have to figure out who Anonymous is. Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 I agree, Anonymous could be taking this too far and it could back fire. Also, what could happen is someone else could pretend they are Anonymous, and take things even higher and play right into the government hands to get the Bill done. One former Ontario Tory once said, to get what you want, create a crisis, then get the job done. Anonymous have official youtube / twitter accounts and the fake ones are outed fairly quickly..I've seen how fast they get reported on Twitter Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) You get to. But first you have to figure out who Anonymous is. Who's to say that Anonymous is'nt Canadian?? And if they are,they are'nt an outside power "interfering" in our politcal process... Edited February 25, 2012 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 Who's to say that Anonymous is'nt Canadian?? And if they are,they are'nt an outside power "interfering" in our politcal process... I have to interject and point out we have Americans who are MPS, and who work in the PMO Michael Sona is from NJ as well And phone numbers from Montana and North Dakota have been used to harass liberal ridings So outside power has already been interfering in our political process Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 The game has commenced with this little nugget... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 The game has commenced with this little nugget... Here's the transcript, I'd be interested in how old the mistress babysitter was when he was screwing her Hello Mr. Toews. We are Anonymous. Over the past several days, we have been watching you. You have continued to deceive the Canadian people by claiming that the information made accessible to police by Bill c-30 is no greater than that which can be found in a phonebook. Tell us Mr. Toews, in what phonebook can you find an individual's internet browsing history? Their private emails? Their financial information? Their credit card number? And all their personal contacts? How convenient it is that you fail to mention Bill C-30 would not only allow police access to this information without a warrant, but would make it illegal for internet service providers to inform their customers that their information has been accessed by the RCMP or CSIS. You have continued to waste the Canadian public's time and money by demanding a parliamentary investigation into the legal release of public records. We are not shocked in the slightest, as this is consistent with your pattern of ignoring true wrongdoings in favour of feigning moral outrage. What is shocking-- not to mention extremely disturbing-- is that you have claimed you are surprised by the contents of Bill C-30, a bill that you yourself tabled. This is a pathetically transparent attempt to feign ignorance in the face of a massive public backlash. However, let us imagine for a moment that you are telling the truth. Let us imagine that you, an elected official in the House of Commons, either did not take the time or are simply too dimwitted to understand a piece of legislation that you yourself championed. A piece of legislation that legalizes governmental spying on Canadian citizens, and effectively ends the right to privacy in this country. This alone is grounds for you to tender your immediate resignation. The fact that you spun this catastrophic failure to perform your duties as an argument in your own defense would be laughable were the consequences not so dire. Of course, we all know this is simply another addition to your ever-growing web of lies. And this isn't the first time you have found yourself tangled up in your own web of deceit, is it, Mr. Toews? The Canadian public is now well aware that you carried on multiple affairs during your 30-year marriage to your first wife, all the while selling yourself as a devout Christian who championed so-called traditional family values. Quote: "Marriage is a uniquely heterosexual institution, that indeed is a sacrament. Marriage is one of the cornerstones upon which our society has been built." And yet, even after demonstrating you do not believe a single word of that statement, you continue to imply that your dedication to your personal family relationships makes you a suitable candidate for political office. Anonymous has gained access to a letter you recently sent to your constituents. In it, you quote Yeats: "All this life can give us is a child's laughter; a woman's kiss." Do you think the Canadian people are stupid, Mr. Toews? Do you honestly think that quoting saccharine poetry to us is going to convince us you are a God-fearing family man? Especially now that you are living in a common-law relationship with your former mistress, the very sort of relationship you turned your nose up at when it suited your political interests. Mr. Toews, you have used the illusion of a traditional family life, faith, and moral values as tools in your desperate bid for power, all the while trampling on the rights of others. You have used your own family as pawns in the creation of this illusion. Once again, you have inserted your spouse and children into this debate as rhetorical devices. We warned you that you would not be allowed any secrets if you did not allow the Canadian public any secrets of their own. Therefore, we are naming the woman you referenced in this letter to your constituents. The woman Vic Toews is cohabitating with, whom he impregnated in an affair that took place during his first marriage, is Stacey Meek. She is employed in an administrative capacity by Senator Terry Stratton. She runs a public relations firm based in Toronto. She previously worked for Conservative MP Joy Smith, and is currently listed as a constituency assistant for Conservative MP Joyce Bateman. In the past, she was employed by Issues Ink, a consulting and publishing company based in Winnipeg. Of course, we're sure you had absolutely nothing to do with Stacey Meek being hired by Senator Stratton, Mr. Toews. Surely a man like yourself with such solid moral convictions would never engage in that kind of nepotism! She has a father, Joe, who is a doctor of veterinary medicine; a brother, Jeff; a sister-in law, Rhea; and two nieces who we shall not name, all of whom reside in Winnipeg. Her mother is deceased and passed away due to cancer in in 2002. We also have information about your youngest son, who was the product of your affair with Ms. Meek. However, as he is only 4 years-old and entirely innocent in this matter, we will not release this information. Anonymous does not hold the son responsible for the crimes of the father. However, the woman you are cohabitating with is politically active, a government employee, and in particular is a constituency assistant to MP Joyce Bateman, who voted Yes on Bill C-30. As such, we have no qualms about releasing information about her to the Canadian public. We have also decided not to release your personal contact information, such as your phone number and address, at this time, as we understand you have received credible violent threats from members of the public. Shall we continue, Mr. Toews? Do we have your attention? How does it feel to have personal information about your family in the hands of people you know nothing about, with no control over who disseminates it or how it will be used? Let it be known this is only a taste of the information we have access to. And this is only the beginning. And yet, it is nothing compared to the personal information of millions of Canadians that will be collected, stored, and scrutinized by the authorities if Mr. Toews and this corrupt government are allowed to pass Bill C-30. If this outrageous piece of legislation is allowed to pass, the government will have access to massive legally-required databases filled with information on your spouses, your children, your parents, your brothers, your sisters, your friends and your neighbours. Let it be known, Mr. Toews, that Anonymous will do to corrupt politicians exactly what you are attempting to do to the Canadian public. There will be no two-tier system of privacy for the government and the people of this country. You, and any public official who spies or support spying on Canadian citizens, will reap exactly what you have sewn. It would appear you have made many political enemies, Mr. Toews. Since Anonymous made an email address available through which the public can submit more Vikileaks, we have received no less than a dozen emails from your peers in Ottawa, several of whom have offered information or have made offers to provide us with information. And that does not include the messages from members of the public who know you in a personal capacity. And to the rest of the Parliament of Canada: you would do well to mind your words about Anonymous. Any attempt to score political points by claiming we are associated with a particular political party will not be met kindly. Your party affiliations are utterly irrelevant to us. Our only interest in this matter is protecting the freedom of information, and protecting the privacy of Canadians from the tyranny of our own government. Anonymous demands the immediate resignation of Vic Toews, the scrapping of Bills C-30 and C-11 in their entirety, and a formal apology to the people of Canada for referring to them as supporters of pedophiles, and importantly, for attempting to undermine their most basic civil rights. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us. Quote
scribblet Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 That's disgusting, Isn’t the woman entitled to privacy, my goodness, and her family. I hope no one with any integrity agrees with what they are doing… Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 That's disgusting, Isn’t the woman entitled to privacy, my goodness, and her family. I hope no one with any integrity agrees with what they are doing… The irony of this post from this member cannot be overstated... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 I think its time to get to know Stacey Meek Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 That's disgusting, Isn’t the woman entitled to privacy, my goodness, and her family. I hope no one with any integrity agrees with what they are doing… Anybody who signs off on that bill will be held accountable Like Anonymous says if we're not allowed secrets neither are they Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 I don't agree with Anonymous' methods... As I said before,I would prefer Dr. Anne Cavoukian's more reasoned approach... However,the intransigence of the current gang of autocratic authoritarian bullies controlling things in Ottawa needs to change. Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Argus Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Its the governments fault for tabling extreme legislation such as the Copyright and Internet surveillance bills. Anonymous wasn't paying attention to Canada at all until this happened. You reap what you sow. I don't think much of criminal vigilantes threatening politicians in a democratic government. I can't say I think much of people who admire them either. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 To keep track of the events here is recap to date: Extortion of Toews by Anonymous White North The demands are: - apologize to Canada - Toews is to resign immediately - scrap Bill C-30 Or else: - they have a lot of personal information on Toews they will release and it is the tip of the iceberg - Toews will lose his job Now Extortion of Toews, the Sequel by Anonymous North (new name) The demands are: - apologize to Canada - Toews is to resign immediately, again - scrap Bill C-30 and Bill C-11 - you better not cut off my You tube Or else: - they have a lot of personal information on Toews they will release as he has lots of skeletons in the closet (changed from tip of the iceburg) - Toews will lose his job One last thing: - if anyone has personal information on Toews send to the email below Interesting you use the word "Extortion"... Are you suggesting we should do absolutely nothing about this all encompassing bill to designed to curtail our personal privacy and freedom and give the police sweeping powers to invade our privacy...All under the guise of protecting us from potential "Child pornographers" and "Pedophiles"? My suggestion is that you take a look at my post showing Steve Paiken's interview with Anne Cavoukian from earlier this week..It explains things far beter than Anonymous' more visceral approach... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 I don't think much of criminal vigilantes threatening politicians in a democratic government. I can't say I think much of people who admire them either. why am I not surprised, you are a harper supporter Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 I don't agree with Anonymous' methods... As I said before,I would prefer Dr. Anne Cavoukian's more reasoned approach... However,the intransigence of the current gang of autocratic authoritarian bullies controlling things in Ottawa needs to change. Yep, extreme times calls for drastic measures Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 I don't think much of criminal vigilantes threatening politicians in a democratic government. I can't say I think much of people who admire them either. Yes...I find their approach more than a little unseemly... However,this bill is a steaming pile of bovine excrement and does indeed need to be scrapped... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
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