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Uh-oh....looks like BC ferries did not get the memo about metrication:

Q: Do you handle motorcycles differently from other vehicles?

A: Motorcycles are usually loaded onto the ferry before other vehicles. Here are some more tips for motorcycle riders:

Always ride your motorcycle onto the vessel slowly.

Motorcycles should be parked at a 45-degree angle to the ship's centre line.

I am sure that all those metricated Canadians under 30 years of age know that should be 0.7854 radians!

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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I understand that furlong is used in some horse-races but otherwise it is redundant.

I have never got it why the yard is always a horizontal measure, never a vertical one. You say that a distance between place A and place B is so and so many yards but you say that an aeroplane is at an altitude of so and so many feet and a lake is so and so many feet deep, never yards. I'm sure there is some logical explanation to that.

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Uh-oh....looks like BC ferries did not get the memo about metrication:

Q: Do you handle motorcycles differently from other vehicles?

A: Motorcycles are usually loaded onto the ferry before other vehicles. Here are some more tips for motorcycle riders:

Always ride your motorcycle onto the vessel slowly.

Motorcycles should be parked at a 45-degree angle to the ship's centre line.

I am sure that all those metricated Canadians under 30 years of age know that should be 0.7854 radians!

No degrees are used as a standard measure. Radians are only used for advanced measures.

Degrees are a SI unit

SI Derived Units

Name Symbol Equivalent Measure of

astronomical unit AU 1.49598e11 m mean distance earth to sun

atomic mass unit u 1.66054e-27 kg mass

becquerel Bq 1/s activity (radioactive)

coulomb C A*s electric charge

curie Ci 3.70e10 Bq activity (radioactive)

day d 24 h time

degree deg 1.745329e-2 rad plane angle

electron volt eV 1.602176e-19 J energy

farad F C/V electric capacitance

gram g 0.001 kg mass

gray Gy J/kg absorbed dose (of radiation)

henry H V*s/A inductance

hertz Hz 1/s frequency

hour h 3600 s time

joule J N*m energy

litre L 0.001 m^3 volume

lumen lm cd*sr luminous flux

lux lx cd*sr/m^2 illuminance

minute min 60 s time

newton N kg*m/s^2 force

ohm ohm V/A electric resistance

pascal Pa N/m^2 pressure, stress

radian rad m/m plane angle

rem rem 0.01 Sv dose equivalent (of radiation)

sievert Sv J/kg dose equivalent (of radiation)

steradian sr m^2/m^2 solid angle

tesla T V*s/m^2 magnetic flux density

volt V J/C electric potential

watt W J/s power

weber Wb V*s magnetic flux

year y 365.24 day time

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No degrees are used as a standard measure. Radians are only used for advanced measures.

Degrees are a SI unit

Angle measure is derived from base SI units. "Degree" is not in the club...sorry.

As a matter of fact, we paid hundreds of dollars for programmable HP and Texas Instruments calculators back in the 70's just to do the conversion with a button. Now it is standard on any scientific calculator.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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What is the height of that horse...in hands! :)

Yes but International Inches are used not American Surveyor Measurements...

Since 1959

A hand is defined as 4 International Inches not American Inches.

Much like the Imperial System in Canada is not the Imperial System, it is the Canadian System and is not identical with all American Imperial Units.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inch#International_inch

Also Imperial units in America are called English Units. In Canada their Imperial units are Called Canadian Units.

The official policy of the United States government is to designate the metric system of measurement as the preferred system of weights and measures for U.S. trade and commerce. This process is known as metrication, and is evident in labeling requirements on food products, for example. However, for various reasons, customary units are still widely used on consumer products and in industrial manufacturing; only in specific scientific contexts are SI units always preferred. Since everyday weights and measures are mostly non-SI, children in U.S. public schools are generally taught customary units before SI, although many schools are now attempting to teach SI units at an earlier age.
— one international foot is exactly 0.999998 of a U.S. survey foot, for a difference of about 1⁄8 inch (3 mm) per mile
The NAD27 was replaced in the 1980s by the North American Datum of 1983 (NAD83), which is defined in meters. The SPCSs were also updated, but the National Geodetic Survey left the decision of which (if any) definition of the foot to use to the individual states. All SPCSs are defined in meters, but seven states also have SPCSs defined in U.S. survey feet and an eighth state in international feet: the other 42 states use only meter-based SPCSs.

The US has three units of measurement being used. Sadly even though the US Federal Government has officially passed measures, states are still passing acts. In the US I was pretty sure that if the Federal Government has jurisdiction the state does not.. likewise if the state has jurisidiction the people do not, and all other powers rest with the people. But clearly the Senate has effected an official statement on measures, so wouldn't that invalidate all other laws that contradict the US measure law?

This is why Canada is much better off in having only 1 system and sticking to it. It leads to a lot of headaches in having to wondering what units are being used. Only having one official measure saves a lot of problems that the US faces interstate and by state/federal exchanges.

http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/laws/metric-act.html

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But clearly the Senate has effected an official statement on measures, so wouldn't that invalidate all other laws that contradict the US measure law?

No...the US Congress never mandated metrication by law.

This is why Canada is much better off in having only 1 system and sticking to it. It leads to a lot of headaches in having to wondering what units are being used. Only having one official measure saves a lot of problems that the US faces interstate and by state/federal exchanges.

Except that Canada doesn't do any such thing, as Imperial/Canadian/American units are still widely used.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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No...the US Congress never mandated metrication by law.

The Metric Act of 1866 was originally introduced as H.R. 596 in the 39th Congress. The House passed it on 17 May 1866; the Senate passed it on 27 July 1866; and it was presented to the President and signed the next day.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-5116

http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/MAR12/Event/168864

http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/laws/Pub.L.110-69-part.pdf

http://www.usinnovation.org/files/AmericaCOMPETES_EnactedProgramsSummary_011909%20Sheet1.pdf

2010

2011

2012

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41819.pdf

US officialized metrics like 100 years before Canada!

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The Comac C919 is mid 80's technology....airliner training wheels for China.

Yes...it's a wonder how Boeing has more than held its own with such a handicap.

Canada signed on to the plan....stupid is as stupid does. "Metric" nations lost the war.

Every country has to start and China shows great potential in almost every field. The real question you should answer is, why is America going down the gurgler and China rising?

Yes, Canada signed it. It too used medieval measurements at that time, and that as we know now was not so clever, or do you know another reason why it tries to go metric now?

Metric nations might have lost the war, but America lost the plot.

It is quite a different question whether China's rise to power is something to look forward to.

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Every country has to start and China shows great potential in almost every field. The real question you should answer is, why is America going down the gurgler and China rising?

It's about time for China to catch up. What were they waiting for? I do recall they had a little problem with the Japanese, solved by the Americans.

Yes, Canada signed it. It too used medieval measurements at that time, and that as we know now was not so clever, or do you know another reason why it tries to go metric now?

No comprende...

Metric nations might have lost the war, but America lost the plot.

China wants to go to the Moon...the Americans have been there and done that...over 40 years ago. Americans will wave to the Chinese Moon men...on our way to Mars.

It is quite a different question whether China's rise to power is something to look forward to.

Canada has no choice either way....your empire is long gone.

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Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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What do we have here...ice fishing in Ontario, and when that big northern is landed, there is no talk of kilograms, just pounds:

It was probably americans who caught it, they take everything up here.

It is like some giant nature reserve for Americans up here. and you know what mericuns do wit nature.

But its no seal right. Guess only the wealthy americans can afford to club seal.

Edited by Sa'adoni
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It was probably americans who caught it, they take everything up here.

No way dude...those are most certainly not 'Merkins.

It is like some giant nature reserve for Americans up here. and you know what mericuns do wit nature.

Canadians need the money to survive.

But its no seal right. Guess only the wealthy americans can afford to club seal.

Poor ones too.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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