cybercoma Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 Yeah it was Anonymous that made all those calls. That's hilarious. Quote
scribblet Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) I didn't it was them, I said a group such as they. If we ever find out who did this and the conservatives are absolved, you and your ilk wouldn't believe it anyway. Edited February 25, 2012 by scribblet Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Newfoundlander Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Hopefully this leads to some interesting by-elections. Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Hopefully this leads to some interesting by-elections. I'm still wondering if this could lead to the Governor General having the perogative to dissolve a majority parliament because a political party used subterfuge and clandestine means to essentially rig an election in certain ridings they knew were very closely contested??? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Hopefully this leads to some interesting by-elections. Bob Rae announced hes going to see if the court will grant by elections Quote
cybercoma Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 I'm still wondering if this could lead to the Governor General having the perogative to dissolve a majority parliament because a political party used subterfuge and clandestine means to essentially rig an election in certain ridings they knew were very closely contested??? Moreover, what does it say about all of the votes that have happened in Parliament due to a fraudulent seat count? Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Moreover, what does it say about all of the votes that have happened in Parliament due to a fraudulent seat count? Sure... What we are talking about here is the potential illegitimacy of the current government because of a potentially rigged election. I don't believe this was done by a single rogue person because there would be too many variables that would have had to be coordinated in almost 20 ridings (allegedly)... So,there had to be a a larger group of people conspiring to conduct this potential act of subterfuge. The questions are,assuming it's proven true... 1.Who was involved? 2.How far up the chain of command did the knowledge of this go? 3.Did it actually have an effect on the potential outcomes of those ridings? If answers to those questions are answered and things are found out to have occured,it will make the Adscam scandal seem like childs play because we will have had an illegitimate government put upon all of us,through sleazy clandestine means... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
ReeferMadness Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 character assassination ads ... in and out scandal .... Cotler affair ..... and now blatant voter manipulation. We're now a banana republic democracy. Wow, I am so proud to be a Canadian. Maybe the Conservatives should just start buying votes for cash. At least that would be more honest. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
punked Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 It is interesting, I really don't see the CPC organizing something to that extent, maybe a group such as 'anonymous' perhaps,who else would have access to so many Liberal voter lists. I've seen and used the Conservative system, which does not have Liberal voter lists in it. It appears there is something larger at play here. Yes the Liberal voter list is a huge secret. When an election comes down the voter list goes to every campaign in the country and is put on every computer the Liberals will use. It is just the easiest way to up date a list if voters move across country etc. Anyone could get it if they walked into an office and started volunteering. ANYONE. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 There's obviously something up with it. It's not like these are just a bunch of random ridings, there's a lot of similarities between most of them. Quote
capricorn Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 I resist referencing partisan blogspots. But since this one made the National Newswatch I think it's safe to make an exception. Racknine is fighting back over comments made by NDP Pat Martin outside the House of Commons. The letter from Racknine's lawyers is reproduced in the link cited below. Racknine says Pat Martin defamed company http://www.stephentaylor.ca/2012/02/racknine-says-pat-martin-defamed-company/ For now, Racknine would accept an apology but has not ruled out other legal action. What say you now, Mr. Martin. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Jack Weber Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) I resist referencing partisan blogspots. But since this one made the National Newswatch I think it's safe to make an exception. Racknine is fighting back over comments made by NDP Pat Martin outside the House of Commons. The letter from Racknine's lawyers is reproduced in the link cited below. http://www.stephentaylor.ca/2012/02/racknine-says-pat-martin-defamed-company/ For now, Racknine would accept an apology but has not ruled out other legal action. What say you now, Mr. Martin. I think Mr. Martin would probably say "Tough sh!t...Prove me wrong instead of hiding behind their feelings being hurt."... Or something to that effect... Edited February 26, 2012 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
capricorn Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 I think Mr. Martin would probably say "Tough sh!t...Prove me wrong instead of hiding behind their feelings being hurt."... Or something to that effect... Were Martin's comments malicious or based on fact? That's for the lawyers to work out. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Jack Weber Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 Were Martin's comments malicious or based on fact? That's for the lawyers to work out. If I was the head of Racknine,and I was at the heart of a potential electoral fraud scandal,I might want to keep a lower profile than threatening a lawsuit of a government official because my company's "reputation" was damaged... By getting all high and mighty,Racknine probably just made the spotlight on them a little brighter... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
capricorn Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 If I was the head of Racknine,and I was at the heart of a potential electoral fraud scandal,I might want to keep a lower profile than threatening a lawsuit of a government official because my company's "reputation" was damaged... By getting all high and mighty,Racknine probably just made the spotlight on them a little brighter... They've already turned over all their records to Elections Canada. What if they're not afraid of the spotlight? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Jack Weber Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 They've already turned over all their records to Elections Canada. What if they're not afraid of the spotlight? Then Mr. Martin's comments should'nt bother them at all...In fact,they could use the spotlight to drum up business!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
capricorn Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 Then Mr. Martin's comments should'nt bother them at all...In fact,they could use the spotlight to drum up business!!! There is such a thing as proactively protecting and defending the good name of your company to ensure unhindered future business. Racknine is requesting the apology be delivered to a number of media outlets as listed in the lawyer's letter to ensure broad circulation. They're not doing anything different than any other company that wants to continue operating. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Jack Weber Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) There is such a thing as proactively protecting and defending the good name of your company to ensure unhindered future business. Racknine is requesting the apology be delivered to a number of media outlets as listed in the lawyer's letter to ensure broad circulation. They're not doing anything different than any other company that wants to continue operating. And if it comes out that they were involved??? Er...Wait a minute... Edited February 26, 2012 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
capricorn Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 And if it comes out that they were involved??? Who am I to predict the outcome of the Elections Canada and RCMP investigation? Or you for that matter. Er...Wait a minute... For what? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Jack Weber Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 For what? At the moment we do know that this company has links to the Conservative party and have done robo calls for them before,including the last election... The question is were they knowingly doing this to attempt voter surpression? I suppose we need to find out of the Conservative party uses this company exclusively for these calls... If so,the smoke from the gun just got a little thicker... Martin should probably retract his statement until the facts come out,though... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Bryan Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 it was estimated it would have cost $ 50,000 to $ 100,000 altogether Estimated by who? Pat Martin? If they cost anywhere near that much, they would not be in such increased usage. People use them because it's cheaper than making the calls yourself. My daughter's school uses a robo-caller for announcements and such, and they use it because it costs a lot less than any other solution available. Quote
CPCFTW Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 At the moment we do know that this company has links to the Conservative party and have done robo calls for them before,including the last election... The question is were they knowingly doing this to attempt voter surpression? I suppose we need to find out of the Conservative party uses this company exclusively for these calls... If so,the smoke from the gun just got a little thicker... Martin should probably retract his statement until the facts come out,though... Links as in they were hired by the Conservative party to conduct robocalls? Maybe Loblaws also has links to the Conservative party because they catered a few Conservative dinners... burn Loblaws burn!! Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Links as in they were hired by the Conservative party to conduct robocalls? Maybe Loblaws also has links to the Conservative party because they catered a few Conservative dinners... burn Loblaws burn!! Of course Loblaws does'nt have the power to enact legislation,do they??? I see potential election rigging is'nt that important to you... By the way,only fools laugh at thier weak attempts at humour... Edited February 26, 2012 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
waldo Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 Who am I to predict the outcome of the Elections Canada and RCMP investigation? Or you for that matter. and who am I to predict your intent in linking to KingBloggingTory's site in order to flog presumed defamation? Quote
Shakeyhands Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 You know, I'm surprised at the Booster Clubs reaction here. I would think that they would be calling for a full investigation as loud as anyone else. Is suspected voter suppression/electoral fraud such a small issue for you all? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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