Oil sales, human rights on Stephen Harper’s agenda in China

[WWWTT]

Here , in plain language.....you are an idiot if you think Canada is worse than China in Human Rights.

Hey buddy whats your problem?

Why do you have to be insulting towards another here trying to make a point!

I wonder how the moderators will feel about your comments?

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[eyeball]

I think having deals with China, including for our energy sector, are forward-thinking. We do have to consider that many government-owned Chinese corporations have billions in stock and investment in the Alberta Tar Sands (which again is not inherently bad). What is however that these corporations that own stock in Syncrude for example have made clauses that say Syncrude CAN NOT refine that oil in Canada... they want it refined in China so they can have more high paying jobs there. I don't think Canada should relegate itself to a colonial offshoot of the U.S. or China. To be fair though, it would take billions to invest in refineries here and it'd take years to get them ready so it's not so cut and dry either.

Manufacturing has been dead in Canada and the U.S. ever since corporations could freely move their capital to the Third World. They have been on life-support for decades.

The most twisted thing about all this is how poisonous the idea of state owned enterprise is at home and yet here we are catering to state own enterprise abroad like it was the Holy Grail.

What's truly hilarious though is when you're regarded as a whacked out lefty for being critical of such an apparent anti-socialist freedom-loving, crime-fighting, laissez-faire capitalist as Stephan Harper suck-holing to a state-owned enterprise in a state-managed economy that's run by a bunch of thugs, thieves and murderers.

These are the definitely The Crazy Years.

Oh well, the bloody pandas go well with the fuzzy sweater and kitten.

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[mentalfloss]

Steaks for everyone!

Harper, Wen tighten ties, sign deal for beef exports

China and Canada on Wednesday signed a series of agreements to boost modest levels of bilateral trade, including a deal that Ottawa said should allow the immediate resumption of Canadian beef and tallow exports after a nine-year pause.

The deals were inked in Beijing’s Great Hall of the People by Premier Wen Jiabao and Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who arrived on Tuesday with a large trade delegation in a bid to ramp up exports and reduce Canada’s reliance on the huge U.S. market.

Canadian officials said the deal on beef should allow the immediate resumption of beef and tallow exports, which Beijing halted in 2003 after Canada discovered a case of mad cow disease.

China committed itself in 2010 to resuming trade in Canadian beef and tallow. However, commercial trade has not resumed because of Beijing’s standing restrictions on beef containing the growth enhancer ractopamine.

Canada says it is determined to open up new markets and reduce reliance on the United States, which takes about 75 per cent of all Canadian exports.

Ottawa intensified its calls to diversify exports last month after Washington vetoed a pipeline that would have carried crude from the western province of Alberta to Texas.

China does not import any Canadian oil, but says it is interested in doing so. The two nations also signed an extension of a memorandum of understanding on energy issues covering oil, gas and nuclear energy as well as trade and investment.

“This agreement will increase opportunities to attract capital investment, and improve access to markets for Canada’s energy resources, technology and related services,” a Canadian statement said.

CTV News | Harper, Wen tighten ties, sign deal for beef exports

Edited February 8, 2012 by mentalfloss

[guyser]

Hey buddy whats your problem?

Why do you have to be insulting towards another here trying to make a point!

I wonder how the moderators will feel about your comments?

WWWTT

Hey Buddy , No problem at all, except for abject ignorance.

It is not an insult when the point one is making is completely unreal and quite frankly stupid.

Edited February 8, 2012 by guyser

[Topaz]

Very interesting read by a article by Macleans and who went on this trip with the PM. http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/02/07/mr-harper-goes-to-beijing/

[fellowtraveller]

Economy is economy, human rights is human rights.

Besides, I don't think Canada's human right situation is better than China.

The very best investment you can make in your future and your intellect is to spend $87 on a passport. There s a whole world beyond your parents basement.

If nothing else, it will save you the embarassment of making statements like that. You could start your trip in Tibet.

[bjre]

The very best investment you can make in your future and your intellect is to spend $87 on a passport. There s a whole world beyond your parents basement.

If nothing else, it will save you the embarassment of making statements like that. You could start your trip in Tibet.

I was in China for 30+ years.

And I am in Canada for 10+ years.

[fellowtraveller]

I was in China for 30+ years.

And I am in Canada for 10+ years.

Then spend that money on eyeglasses.

[bjre]

Then spend that money on eyeglasses.

Did you wear those glasses to look through the earth to see what is happening in China instead of just listen what cooperate media tell you and your misleading curriculum text book told you?

[fellowtraveller]

Did you wear those glasses to look through the earth to see what is happening in China instead of just listen what cooperate media tell you and your misleading curriculum text book told you?

So tell me, when you were in China what sort of information on world events did you get from your media? Answer: none. If you had any doubts about the veracity of that info, you just checked Google, right? Answer: no. Or you could just check out thee truth at your Falun Gong meeting. Answer: only if you enjoy prison.

Tell me again how human rights in China are the same as they are in Canada.

[bjre]

So tell me, when you were in China what sort of information on world events did you get from your media? Answer: none. If you had any doubts about the veracity of that info, you just checked Google, right? Answer: no. Or you could just check out thee truth at your Falun Gong meeting. Answer: only if you enjoy prison.

Tell me again how human rights in China are the same as they are in Canada.

From your post I can see, actually, you know nothing about China. You are just another one who want to cost my time again. I have many post talking about this topic. You can search forum to find it.

There are much more newspapers, TV/radio stations, magazines, books in China than here in Canada. Even now, I buy most books either from US or from China, not in Canada.

I also watch BBC, ABC, listen VOA sometimes when I was in China. Especially VOA special English in a slow speed to improve my English listening skill.

I used infoseek, yahoo, altervister to search in the web before I know google and later I use Baidu quite often.

Before Falun Gun used by US as anti-China tool, several my friends practice it. After that, they practice other things like TaiJi and hundreds of others. They are very well now in China, now one of my friend even become a leader of a department of one of the top Universities in China.

Now, Falun Gun, most oversea Chinese know it is just one of the CIA supported anti-Chinese governement organizations whose work is create rumors for a little small money.

When you search google for lot of other things, it appeared on the top of the result, see how corporate media work with CIA to fool you?

Edited February 8, 2012 by bjre

[fellowtraveller]

Well, at least I learned The Comedy Hour starts here at 5:05 PM

[mentalfloss]

There are much more newspapers, TV/radio stations, magazines, books in China than here in Canada. Even now, I buy most books either from US or from China, not in Canada.

I also watch BBC, ABC, listen VOA sometimes when I was in China. Especially VOA special English in a slow speed to improve my English listening skill.

I used infoseek, yahoo, altervister to search in the web before I know google and later I use Baidu quite often.

Yes, but do they have FOX?

[PIK]

The left was right, harper does have a secret pangenda, he is going to take those pandas and paint them white and ship them to the arctic, just to fool the lefties into thinking thatr there is lots of them up there. Or could we hear a new commercial from the libs. ''Harper going to put commie pandas in our streets with guns''. lol

[WWWTT]

Then spend that money on eyeglasses.

Why are you insulting another person here like this?

Your comments are not welcome here!

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[Topaz]

The left was right, harper does have a secret pangenda, he is going to take those pandas and paint them white and ship them to the arctic, just to fool the lefties into thinking thatr there is lots of them up there. Or could we hear a new commercial from the libs. ''Harper going to put commie pandas in our streets with guns''. lol

No, your wrong the saying is Canada got the Pandas, China got the pipeline. AND will probably own Alberta within the next ten years.

[PIK]

No, your wrong the saying is Canada got the Pandas, China got the pipeline. AND will probably own Alberta within the next ten years.

You r4eally think your ilk will allow any pipeline to be built? By the time it went thru all the bullshit, it would be years away, just like trying to get a new refinery built.

[mentalfloss]

Canada just a 'distant speckle' to China: analysts

[Smallc]

That's just another example of an inferiority complex on the part of some. Trade has increased by 700% over the last few years, and Chinese officials were the ones talking about a free trade deal. Also, the Chinese state news agency constantly has stories about Canada.

[WWWTT]

That's just another example of an inferiority complex on the part of some. Trade has increased by 700% over the last few years, and Chinese officials were the ones talking about a free trade deal. Also, the Chinese state news agency constantly has stories about Canada.

We do not usually agree Smallc but now we do.

During my time in China watching their tv programs I have seen much mention about "Jia na da"

They are actually very fond of Canadian east coast sea-food particularly Newfoundland caught fish!

We have an excellent opportunity here to advance many abundant natural resources originating from work depleated areas of Canada!

However I believe that Harper and his conservatives have tainted our relations with the Chinese beyond repair and new fresh NDP government is required to re-vitalize renewed partnerships!

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