Army Guy Posted February 6, 2012 Report Posted February 6, 2012 There are also those of us at home who've realized for some time now that we're such abject losers because we're filled with shit and lack the moral and ethical background it takes to conduct never mind win a moral war.Who are we trying to kid? Ourselves mostly. There is no such thing as a moral and ethical war, those are words invented by some politician to cover up the blood and guts of the reality of war... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted February 6, 2012 Report Posted February 6, 2012 As I said, the political doctrine implemented was a failure…….And I don’t mean on the part of the military, since (and rightfully so) the military is at the behest of the democratically elected civilian government…… Agreed, Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Guest Derek L Posted February 6, 2012 Report Posted February 6, 2012 I wonder how many would have so willingly marched off for King and country if the levels of distrust and disbelief in what the government said then were as low as they are today. I certainly don't see any reason to believe the 1% or whatever they called it back then was any less corrupt than today, they certainly had access to more secrecy back then. I'd need the evidence that only a time-viewer could provide to conclude otherwise. Fair enough, but my contention is that contrasted to back then, the “ruling classes”, were more concerned with winning than not appearing to be losing (The next election cycle). Quote
eyeball Posted February 6, 2012 Report Posted February 6, 2012 There is no such thing as a moral and ethical war, those are words invented by some politician to cover up the blood and guts of the reality of war... So why not glorify the blood and guts? I can't think of a better time to try than during the middle of a global race to the bottom. We seem to be blowing off the environment like it was an annoyance - maybe we're not the society of Hobbits you're making us out to be after all. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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