waldo Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 What the hell man are you trolling or are you really this slow? I already responded this this point twice. nice! Not only do you presume to falsely tout austerity payoff... you want to try to tell me what my salient point intent was! Quote
Argus Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 They projected a 1.5% increase in spending. They are doing much better than that projection after the first half of the year. Since that is lower than the rate of inflation that is not an actual increase but a decrease. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 Like we said all along. The cuts will come when Harper gets his majority. 3% down, 10% more in the upcoming budget, and hopefully 50% more by the time Harper's 8 years of majority rule are up! Riiiight. All they have to do is eliminate the military, health care, pensions, and all transfers to the provinces. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shady Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 ah yes, Shady's ready go-to - Solyndra!!! once again: Bush admin approved in terms of placing Solyndra within the final complement of businesses seeking funding - near the end of the Bush presidency. Career civil servants carried the final review process for all Bush admin approved companies through the transition between Bush and Obama admins. As I recall, Solyndra was one of 12 companies (perhaps 16, I can't recall for sure) provided funding - how many of those other companies have gone bankrupt, hey Shady? As for the particular Solyndra bankruptcy itself, the one you so willingly and wantonly attempt to tar Obama with, the cause of that bankruptcy is well understood/documented... the Chinese ate Solyndra's lunch (and the rest of the world) in to-market timeliness and competitiveness of pv solar panels. But wait a minute, all that Chinese supremacy would have funneled on through the timeline of the Bush admin!!! I'm glad you brought up the Chinese. They're the only country you approve of using fossil fuels right? They get a pass from you regarding their oil exploration and exploitation. They're allowed by you to build coal power plants. It's only us that has to knee-cap ourselves when it comes to energy production right? I'm guessing if the oil sands where located in the province of Qinghai, instead of Alberta, you'd have nary a ward to say. You're just more interested in killing Canadian jobs. Quote
waldo Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 I'm glad you brought up the Chinese. They're the only country you approve of using fossil fuels right? They get a pass from you regarding their oil exploration and exploitation. how does your premise stand-up, considering Sinopec has a 10% state in Syncrude and is providing significant initial funding to Enbridge/Gateway, hey? It doesn't matter how many times you repeat the same nonsense - I have criticized China on many levels... I have also brought notice to many of the world-leading initiatives it is involved in. You simply take exception to anyone challenging your perpetual China-bashing. Quote
Shady Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 You simply take exception to anyone challenging your perpetual China-bashing. I don't bash China. I just wish you'd let us develop our energy industry the same way you let them develop theirs. Quote
punked Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 If increased unemployment is paying off then it sure is. Quote
August1991 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Like we said all along. The cuts will come when Harper gets his majority. 3% down, 10% more in the upcoming budget, and hopefully 50% more by the time Harper's 8 years of majority rule are up! Wait a second. As the G&M article makes plain, the Economic Action Plan money has already been spent and so too the BC GST compensation package. IOW, federal government spending is going down for reasons quite beyond Harper's supposed frugality. (In any case, the G&M article is based n numbers of the PBO and I have a great distrust for Kevin Page and the PBO. He's a bureaucrat who tries to play politics.)Here's my litmus test: I'll believe that Harper is a cheap SOB when he reduces the size of the PMO and PCO to Trudeau-level staffing. I suspect revenue will be up from the effects of inflation, 600,000 new jobs, and higher corporate profits.Who cares about revenue. It is government spending that is the critical question.Riiiight. All they have to do is eliminate the military, health care, pensions, and all transfers to the provinces.Argus, I laughed at the suggestion of a 50% cut in federal government spending too!But there is a point. I'm impressed that Harper has asked the military to look for savings. And as to transfers to the provinces, health care is a large part. Harper has wisely told the provinces what they'll get for health, and it will follow nominal GDP - and this without convoluted/hyped federal-provincial conferences or free-for-all late night pizza sessions at 24 Sussex. The provinces know how much they'll get, and the federal government can already see predictable lower expenditures - at least for health care transfers. (Moreover, Harper has told the provinces to do whatever they want in the delivery of health care. Maybe this means that Harper will get around to letting the federal Health department of 10,000 civil servants shrink through attrition.) Edited January 13, 2012 by August1991 Quote
William Ashley Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) 5% cuts are totally reversed by the 20 billion dollar crime bill called omnibus. (they should only be legislating on crimes that have penatentary length sentences, two years or more. --- lesser crimes are a domain of the province.) Also spending has increased it is just being spread out over insane time periods like 15 years. They are spending into the future to make it seam like costs are going down - they arn't they are going up. Edited January 14, 2012 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
TimG Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 I don't bash China. I just wish you'd let us develop our energy industry the same way you let them develop theirs.Waldo would rather see Canadian jobs shipped to China because he thinks it is morally wrong for Canadians to be richer than the Chinese. In waldo's world 'inequality' is the ultimate evil and it is better for everyone to be living in poverty if that means 'inequalilty' is less. Quote
dre Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) I don't bash China. I just wish you'd let us develop our energy industry the same way you let them develop theirs. Wow... what a stupid thing to wish for! Here ya go! http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/Smog_in_china.jpg Edited January 14, 2012 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
WWWTT Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 You're trying to discuss budgets and economics with somebody that thinks there is such a thing as a permanent construction job Actually Harpers conservative government has made it easier for construction trade workers to immigrate to Canada.Because there is a shortage now and will be in the foreseeable future. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 I'm glad you brought up the Chinese. They're the only country you approve of using fossil fuels right? They get a pass from you regarding their oil exploration and exploitation. They're allowed by you to build coal power plants. It's only us that has to knee-cap ourselves when it comes to energy production right? I'm guessing if the oil sands where located in the province of Qinghai, instead of Alberta, you'd have nary a ward to say. You're just more interested in killing Canadian jobs. Actually China is the largest investor in green energy WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
TimG Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Actually China is the largest investor in green energyChina is the 'largest' consumer in any number of categories including 'largest market for rolls royces'. This does not mean that China is a paragon of 'green virtue'. The opposite is true since they are investing a lot more in coal, gas and other 'non-green' tech. Edited January 14, 2012 by TimG Quote
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