waldo Posted January 27, 2012 Report Posted January 27, 2012 The wasted $ moving, canceling energy generating plants,funding costly green energy sources that are cost prohibitive and not working citation request; re: analysis to support said generalized and unsubstantiated summary assessment of, 'cost prohibitive and not working' Quote
Evening Star Posted January 27, 2012 Report Posted January 27, 2012 I defended these guys for a while but it's been getting hard. Quote
punked Posted January 27, 2012 Report Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) We now have a window as to how the McGuinty Liberals plan to address Ontario's deficit problem. http://www.thestar.com/article/1120501--mcguinty-says-history-of-goodwill-with-public-servants-will-ease-pain-of-cuts Gosh, I can't wait to hear the NDP's Horwath response to this. If McGuinty thinks that because he bought peace with the unions they will now play nice as a favour to him, he's more of an idiot than I thought. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/24/ontario-will-address-public-service-salaries-to-help-balance-budget-dalton-mcguinty/ That's a lot to mull over. I wonder how many medical procedures will be de-listed this time from our public health care coverage? So far, increasing the health care tax hasn't been mentioned but I fear that may be just around the corner. It would have been nice for McGuinty to consult ordinary Ontarians for cost cutting ideas in advance of a budget. Instead he decided Drummond was the one who would find all the answers. I hope Drummond's other ideas are not as depressing as this. Maybe it will work. I mean the NDP in NS have been plugging their budget hole by negotiating in a free and open with Unions and many have agreed to raises smaller then inflation to share in the sacrifice to balance the budget 0-1% in most cases even the teachers. Heck they have been cutting their debt faster then the CONSERVATIVES in NB and doing it in a transparent way. Edited January 27, 2012 by punked Quote
CPCFTW Posted January 28, 2012 Report Posted January 28, 2012 Maybe it will work. I mean the NDP in NS have been plugging their budget hole by negotiating in a free and open with Unions and many have agreed to raises smaller then inflation to share in the sacrifice to balance the budget 0-1% in most cases even the teachers. Heck they have been cutting their debt faster then the CONSERVATIVES in NB and doing it in a transparent way. Thank you for your "sacrifice" unions. Quote
punked Posted January 28, 2012 Report Posted January 28, 2012 Thank you for your "sacrifice" unions. Better then the CONSERVATIVES are doing with the Unions in NB. Quote
cybercoma Posted January 28, 2012 Report Posted January 28, 2012 Better than what the Conservatives are doing in NB period. The Minister for Seniors was on the news the other day looking way out of her league when a journalist was asking her about NB demographis and how the government plans to fund care for seniors. The problem in NB is that working-age people are leaving the province in droves, while people come back home to retire. So the journalist was asking her what the NBPC party's plans were and she sat there parroting the federal government's talking points about having more active seniors to prevent illness. This, of course, ignores the fact that chronic illnesses and mobility issues cannot be staved off indefinitely. In other words, their plan is to do nothing. The province, meanwhile, has one of the worst debts (if not the worst debt) in the entire nation. David Alward is also supporting the federal crime bill, which makes absolutely no sense coming from a province with no more money left to spend. Seriously, the problem is so bad that one of the Conservative cabinet ministers, who spent his life as a businessman, came right out and said that the problem is with democracy itself. That politicians continue to make electoral promises that they cannot deliver on and there's no way around it. Any politician that went out there, told the truth, and said there's no money left would not get elected. People vote for the party that's going to give them stuff. It's a disaster here. Quote
Topaz Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 Question and it may seem weird but is there any law that says that provinces HAVE to have prisons? IF not, why can't the provinces who can't afford the 1 billion$$ increases OUTSOURCE the prisoners to... say Alberta or Saskatchewan? Quote
MiddleClassCentrist Posted February 26, 2012 Report Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) I've heard a few things coming down the line. Can't comment on specifics at this time. They are running a "further right than Mike Harris" campaign against public unions which will unfold over the next year. Though, nothing may come of it at this point. Ontario might be following in Wisconsin's shoes. It seems as though Dalton might be ramping up to do some union busting. Edited February 26, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
CPCFTW Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 I've heard a few things coming down the line. Can't comment on specifics at this time. They are running a "further right than Mike Harris" campaign against public unions which will unfold over the next year. Though, nothing may come of it at this point. Ontario might be following in Wisconsin's shoes. It seems as though Dalton might be ramping up to do some union busting. Good to hear! Maybe I should have voted for him.. Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 Unions used to be feared, Unions used to be for the people and not themselves I used to be pro union but since I was screwed, family was screwed I say screw unions Quote
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