Tories, tax dollars and the shadow MP

[Evening Star]

And it doesn't matter at all in the least. The government is obligated to work with the MP, not setup their own party hacks in a constituency and work through them. If it's not a law now, it should be.

Well, yeah.

[cybercoma]

Source for my belief that I'm sure the "other guys" have done something like this? See the post of mine that you quoted.

And millions of children believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny. The difference between them and most adults is that most adults usually base their beliefs on conclusions drawn from evidence using reason. The ones that don't are usually religious extremists, conspiracy theorists, political ideologues and the like.

[WWWTT]

I don't think it's specifically treason. You should check the actual definition of treason in the Criminal Code. I could be wrong.

Yes actually maybe I am using strong language here?But perhaps not?

However this action is typical and characteristic of something borderline that the conservatives are famous for!

You right in saying that more research would have to be done.

In my experience with dealing with people who like to twist the rules to their advantage is to take the same approach when directing critisism towards them.If you don't then you will always be at the disadvantage.

WWWTT

[Jack Weber]

Source for my belief that I'm sure the "other guys" have done something like this? See the post of mine that you quoted.

So....Nothing,other than ideologically driven partisan hackery??

[cybercoma]

Well, yeah.

Not disagreeing, just adding.

Yes actually maybe I am using strong language here?But perhaps not?

However this action is typical and characteristic of something borderline that the conservatives are famous for!

You right in saying that more research would have to be done.

In my experience with dealing with people who like to twist the rules to their advantage is to take the same approach when directing critisism towards them.If you don't then you will always be at the disadvantage.

WWWTT

From questionable political contributions, to the misappropriation of money for border infrastructure (Clement), to lying to Parliament (Oda), to making illegal legislation (Ritzer and the CWB), to using government and military vehicles for personal use (Harper's hockey trip, MacKay's fishing trip), to interfering with private labour negotiations (Canada Post), to running shadow MPs in ridings, to ramming legislation through before considering amendments and realizing they messed up (C-10), there appears to be a clear systemic problem with the CPC that is just as bad as the corruption that was going on with the Liberals. The CPC is some of the worst leadership I have ever seen anywhere in my life.

[August1991]

Irwin Cotler claims...

Irwin Cotler says...

Well, Irwin Cotler is a partisan Liberal. He has an interest in presenting the facts in this manner. It's called spin.

[olp1fan]

Irwin Cotler claims...

Irwin Cotler says...

Well, Irwin Cotler is a partisan Liberal. He has an interest in presenting the facts in this manner. It's called spin.

lol you are the one spinning here

[CPCFTW]

And millions of children believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny. The difference between them and most adults is that most adults usually base their beliefs on conclusions drawn from evidence using reason. The ones that don't are usually religious extremists, conspiracy theorists, political ideologues and the like.

So....Nothing,other than ideologically driven partisan hackery??

Of course I have no source. None of this petty stuff was important when the "natural governing party" was in power. It was called "politics". Now that the pigs were given the boot from the trough, they run to the left wing consensus media to blow every minor incident of "politics" into a scandal and you lefty sheep lap it up.

Now repeat after me:

We the baaaaaa 99%.... vow to end the regime of baaaaa.... corporate personhood that threatens the baaaaa.... earth and all it's citizens baaaaa.

Edited December 8, 2011 by CPCFTW

[Bryan]

I'd be surprised if this were the case with Cotler.

If that is true, then he has nothing to worry about. The shadow MP would not be needed, because no one would go to him. The only way a shadow MP would have anything to do is if a significant number of the real MPs constituents don't think he's helping them.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

I guess I see this a little differently than most folks. If the guy is on the government payroll, then so be it, and just say so. They can hire and fire as they please, they be da boss. On the other hand it should be clear what he was hired for and it should be clear what is expected of him.

This kind of thing is the tip of the iceberg to some degree. Government spending always was and always will be the bane of the tax payers existence. This is where the money goes, this is why we borrow more and more everyday just to float the government boat. The damned boat is a pig, and that government hog is eating the public's lunch to a large degree. Taxes, that is what life is about, taxes to pay for crap the politicians want, not necessarily what we want because we have no real say in their spending habits and practices.

[Jack Weber]

Of course I have no source. None of this petty stuff was important when the "natural governing party" was in power. It was called "politics". Now that the pigs were given the boot from the trough, they run to the left wing consensus media to blow every minor incident of "politics" into a scandal and you lefty sheep lap it up.

Now repeat after me:

We the baaaaaa 99%.... vow to end the regime of baaaaa.... corporate personhood that threatens the baaaaa.... earth and all it's citizens baaaaa.

At least you admit you have zippo...nada....zilch...

I did'nt know I was a "lefty sheep"?

Now repeat after me...Baaaa free markets will make everyone wealthy...Baaaa Kevin O'Leary is my hero...Baaaa Librano's....Baaaa Left wing media bias...Baaaa fair and balanced...Baaa the CBC...

Edited December 8, 2011 by Jack Weber

[MiddleClassCentrist]

At least you admit you have zippo...nada....zilch...

I did'nt know I was a "lefty sheep"?

Now repeat after me...Baaaa free markets will make everyone wealthy...Baaaa Kevin O'Leary is my hero...Baaaa Librano's....Baaaa Left wing media bias...Baaaa fair and balanced...Baaa the CBC...

I talked about how corporations should fail in the free market instead of being propped up by government... in response he called me a communist. Frankly, I don't understand the logic. Must make sense in CPCFTW's version of conservatopia... Where the free market is giving tax money to business and cutting services for the poor.

Edited December 9, 2011 by MiddleClassCentrist

[Jack Weber]

I talked about how corporations should fail in the free market instead of being propped up by government... in response he called me a communist. Frankly, I don't understand the logic. Must make sense in CPCFTW's version of conservatopia... Where the free market is giving tax money to business and cutting services for the poor.

It's "angry free marketeer "logic..

In other words,there is'nt any...

[Evening Star]

I like how people who are referring to something that has actually been documented are the sheep as opposed to someone who assumes that 'the other guys' must have done it too because they ... just must have (and they're the other guys).

[cybercoma]

Didn't you hear? Free market means they're free to profit, but you socialize the losses. Not only has this happened with banks that are "too big to fail," but also with corporations that pollute the environment, externalizing those costs to us. That's freedom, baby!