mentalfloss Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 They live in metro cities, so they're rich, they vote and they reflect the environmental slant of a party message. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 See there is this thing called a bike can stop on dimes and the guy can get off his bike and walk it when there are too many of them. It would take quite the situation for a bicyclist to kill a pedestrian, not so much for a car killing a bicyclist. Keep the slow stuff on the sidewalk. Your concern for cyclist safety would be admirable if it weren't actually a cloak for your real interest in making things more convenient for drivers at the expense of, well, everyone else. With adequate infrastructure and education in place, there's no reason cars and bikes can't share the road with a minimum of risk. Quote
eyeball Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 People that want to save lives are pansies? stfu. This place really needs a sarcasm smiley. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Wilber Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Much like other gov't regulations that make things more prohibitively expensive. No risk no reward. Yes, and my pile of safety shields that I have removed to make servicing/maintenance is getting larger and larger. Like the saying goes, if your stupid enough to have your hands around moving parts, you probably aren't going to last long shields or not. Bike infrastructure downtown would be next to impossible, the real estate value is obscene and space is at a premium. But there are already paths, just the pedestrians might have to make some room. Removing safety devices on tools that only you use is your business. Forcing others to use them is not. You just want to transfer all the risk to someone else. Conflicts between cyclists, skaters and pedestrians on the Stanley Park seawall became such a problem that separate lanes had to be established and bike traffic was limited to one way around the park. Too many cyclists will not get of their bikes and walk them until it becomes physically impossible to ride them. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Shwa Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 This place really needs a sarcasm smiley. It does! And also a really-really-so-obvious-ya-cant-miss-the-sarcasm smiley. We need one of those too. Quote
Shwa Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Your concern for cyclist safety would be admirable if it weren't actually a cloak for your real interest in making things more convenient for drivers at the expense of, well, everyone else. With adequate infrastructure and education in place, there's no reason cars and bikes can't share the road with a minimum of risk. Kind of reminds me of the whining about the expense and economic impact of QC trucks having to have regular and certified safety checks to operate on ON highways. You know, all those flying and bouncing truck tires were a boon to the funeral industry. Quote
Archanfel Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Your concern for cyclist safety would be admirable if it weren't actually a cloak for your real interest in making things more convenient for drivers at the expense of, well, everyone else. With adequate infrastructure and education in place, there's no reason cars and bikes can't share the road with a minimum of risk. Such education would be more effective if they are for cyclists as well as drivers. You know that stop sign? It applies to both drivers and cyclists. While we are at it, might want to include jaywalking pedestrians as well. Quote
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