Guest Derek L Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 hey if anyones capable of calling martial law to get his way its harpo the man constantly called coalitions undemocratic but the thing is that'd mean the current british government is undemocratic What about your man PET....the "longest serving Canadian Prime Minister"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) and I said oops when I knew I was wrong, I make a lot of errors because I post so quickly without thinking Edited November 25, 2011 by olp1fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 and I said oops when I knew I was wrong, I make a lot of errors because I post so quickly without thinking How many times has the current federal government enacted the War Measures Act/Emergencies Act? Contrast this with PET…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) How many times has the current federal government enacted the War Measures Act/Emergencies Act? Contrast this with PET…. But the difference between Trudeau and Harper is Trudeau's policies made sense and Harpers are ideological Trudeau faced a violent separatist uprising while Harper would invoke it just to piss off the other parties or to save his ass from a coalition Edited November 25, 2011 by olp1fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 But the difference between Trudeau and Harper is Trudeau's policies made sense and Harpers are ideological Trudeau faced a violent separatist uprising while Harper would invoke it just to piss off the other parties or to save his ass from a coalition Are you suggesting Harper gave the army the power to arrest and detain the public, so as to "save his ass"? You telling more fibs? By the way, do you know who scrapped the War Measures Act and replaced it with the Emergencies Act, which is required to be reviewed by Parliament prior to be implemented and any temporary laws being subject to the Charter of Rights and Freedom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Are you suggesting Harper gave the army the power to arrest and detain the public, so as to "save his ass"? You telling more fibs? By the way, do you know who scrapped the War Measures Act and replaced it with the Emergencies Act, which is required to be reviewed by Parliament prior to be implemented and any temporary laws being subject to the Charter of Rights and Freedom? Mulrooney he also sold us out in NAFTA and left in a disgrace Edited November 25, 2011 by olp1fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Mulrooney he also sold us out in NAFTA and left in a disgrace And: Are you suggesting Harper gave the army the power to arrest and detain the public, so as to "save his ass"? You telling more fibs? Almost there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Mulrooney he also sold us out in NAFTA and left in a disgrace To clarify, you’re alright with a Canadian Prime Minister rolling back the public’s rights in a time of war or national emergency right? Would doing so make said Canadian Prime Minister a dictator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 To clarify, you’re alright with a Canadian Prime Minister rolling back the public’s rights in a time of war or national emergency right? Would doing so make said Canadian Prime Minister a dictator? well, he was in a tough spot...it wasn't like the G20 summit in Toronto where there was no real threat...politicians were getting murdered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 well, he was in a tough spot...it wasn't like the G20 summit in Toronto where there was no real threat...politicians were getting murdered What rights did Prime Minister Harper roll back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Also to add, if another Canadian Prime Minster, didn’t roll back the public’s rights during a time of war or say, with the potential threat of terrorism, would that make said Canadian Prime Minster even less of a dictator then those that have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) What rights did Prime Minister Harper roll back? he did so to save his own ass from a non confidence vote / afghan detainee scandal from coming out that is A LOT different than a separatist group murdering politicians Edited November 25, 2011 by olp1fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 he did so to save his own ass from a non confidence vote / afghan detainee scandal from coming out that is A LOT different than a separatist group murdering politicians Harper gave the Police/Army sweeping powers of arrest to prevent a vote of no Confidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Harper gave the Police/Army sweeping powers of arrest to prevent a vote of no Confidence? talking about the pro rouging compared to the trudeau thing Edited November 25, 2011 by olp1fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 talking about the pro rouging compared to the trudeau thing What Harper did was suppressing the public’s rights? If yes, how so? Say, if that was the case, wouldn’t it have cost him in the next federal election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 According to what happened today the Cons are backing off CBC so they lose, Canadians win http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1091899--releasing-records-would-undermine-competitive-position-cbc-says?bn=1 A Federal Court of Appeal decision released Wednesday said that had the committee read them and commented on them, the matter would have been rendered moot. Conservative MP Dean Del Mastro, the parliamentary secretary to the Prime Minister who had put forward the motion, told the committee Thursday that he no longer saw the need to read those documents and so agreed to return them to the CBC. That had opposition MPs saying the government had climbed down from the brink of interference with the judicial system. “We were at a point, potentially, of constitutional crisis,” NDP MP Charlie Angus (Timmins–James Bay) told reporters after the meeting. “I’m glad the Conservatives have backed down on this because what they were doing was very dangerous.” All this appears to be is the committee was going to let the Info Commish do her job. Since she had won the court case to see the documents, and evaluate the exemption criteria, there was no reason the committee needed to see the documents. I don't think the committee members were backing off as much as they were doing their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Anyone else find it wildly hilarious that one of the reasons the CBC gave for not disclosing salaries is that they were afraid other networks would steal their talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Anyone else find it wildly hilarious that one of the reasons the CBC gave for not disclosing salaries is that they were afraid other networks would steal their talent. FOX News has been stealing CNN talent for years..why wouldn't they be paranoid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 FOX News has been stealing CNN talent for years..why wouldn't they be paranoid? That's irrelevant. How would knowing what Peter Mansbridge makes make, say Global, more or less likely to poach him. People go to Fox News because it's more popular and likely pays more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 That's irrelevant. How would knowing what Peter Mansbridge makes make, say Global, more or less likely to poach him. People go to Fox News because it's more popular and likely pays more. Maybe CTV would offer Mansbridge more money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Maybe CTV would offer Mansbridge more money Why would they, they just hired Lisa LaFlemme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Why would they, they just hired Lisa LaFlemme. you're saying if they could get Mansbridge they wouldn;t? hes the top broadcaster in Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Anyone else find it wildly hilarious that one of the reasons the CBC gave for not disclosing salaries is that they were afraid other networks would steal their talent. Not at all. Knowing would give them a leg up in recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trial-and-Error Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 How many appeals will they make before they just release the frickin' documents. They must really be embarrassed for taxpayers to find out how they spend their money. Yes, indeed, CBC is undoubtedly being totally irrespnsible with taxpayers' money and I say get those bastards. Let us teach them once and for all that if they can't pattern themselves after the Harper government whose modus operandi is above all else transparency and accountability, then let the CBC pay the price. Surely we can all agree that Fox North will be a great substitute for the CBC. Oh joy to the way things are unfolding. Besides, I think democracy is highly over-rated, so let's cut to the chase and nail our first institutional scapegoat. Grab your hatchets and ready for attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Yes, indeed, CBC is undoubtedly being totally irrespnsible with taxpayers' money and I say get those bastards. Let us teach them once and for all that if they can't pattern themselves after the Harper government whose modus operandi is above all else transparency and accountability, then let the CBC pay the price. Surely we can all agree that Fox North will be a great substitute for the CBC. Oh joy to the way things are unfolding. Besides, I think democracy is highly over-rated, so let's cut to the chase and nail our first institutional scapegoat. Grab your hatchets and ready for attack. Good one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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