Smallc Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) So, we have a new Auditor General, and he doesn't speak French to the level of being considered completely bilingual. I thought, that in this country, we had the ability to operate in the language of our choice? This is just silliness. The best candidate should get the job as long as they speak one of the official languages (and of course, there are going to be exceptions in certain language areas). The Liberals and NDP should stop being bigoted, it's that simple. Edited November 3, 2011 by Smallc Quote
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 So, we have a new Auditor General, and he doesn't speak French to the level of being considered completely bilingual. I thought, that in this country, we had the ability to operate in the language of our choice? This is just silliness. The best candidate should get the job as long as they speak one of the official languages (and of course, there are going to be exceptions in certain language areas). The Liberals and NDP should stop being bigoted, it's that simple. Let me help you out a little bit by posting a link. No doubt you were out of breath just to post your opinion, your forgot the story. Liberals protest 'abuse of process' in AG pick One wonders if the Liberals would have walked out if the job poster hadn't specified bilingualism as a requirement for the job. Quote
Smallc Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Posted November 3, 2011 Often, when a candidate that is more qualified in other areas presents, even if they don't meet all of the qualifications, they get the job. It happens all of the time. The Liberals are being disingenuous. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 The nomination of Ferguson is a disgrace. The new AG should be bilingual, Liberal-friendly and one of the many unemployed in Canada. Hiring an unemployed person is an important gesture in these troubled economic times. How about Chuck Guite? Quote The government should do something.
Boges Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) The Liberals are mad at us!. Oh the scary Liberals and their 31 seats are mad at us. I love how Bilingualism is only a one way street BTW. You gotta be bilingual in English Canada to get anywhere in the government. No so much in Quebec. Edited November 3, 2011 by Boges Quote
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Often, when a candidate that is more qualified in other areas presents, even if they don't meet all of the qualifications, they get the job. It happens all of the time. The Liberals are being disingenuous. The problem is that the AG is a 'serving' position and the AG should be bilingual, like the qualifications that the government agreed to in the first place. The AG can work in whatever language they prefer, but to serve Parliament - with the French MP's - they should be bilingual to be able to directly answer to questions in the areas in which they report in the language preferred by the French MP's. So the disingenuous Liberals have a point. But I suppose that since there aren't any French MP's in the CPC, and those that are should speak English anyways, there is little concern iby the government. But this issue would have been more fun had their been the appointment of a unilingual French AG. Quote
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 The Liberals are mad at us!. Oh the scary Liberals and their 31 seats are mad at us. I love how Bilingualism is only a one way street BTW. You gotta be bilingual in English Canada to get anywhere in the government. No so much in Quebec. Quebec provincial government maybe, but bilingualism in the Federal government is an asset and required in many places, but not all. Some regions still employ unilingual English staff don't you know... Quote
Smallc Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Posted November 3, 2011 The problem is that the AG is a 'serving' position and the AG should be bilingual, like the qualifications that the government agreed to in the first place. Obviously, that requirement should be secondary to, you know, doing the actual job. Quote
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Obviously, that requirement should be secondary to, you know, doing the actual job. Come on now, it's an Auditor General's job. At that level, what is the skill difference? Someone can operate a calculator faster? Quote
Smallc Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) Come on now, it's an Auditor General's job. At that level, what is the skill difference? I see, so all auditors general candidates are created equal....in your opinion? Are you human? Edited November 3, 2011 by Smallc Quote
blueblood Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Often, when a candidate that is more qualified in other areas presents, even if they don't meet all of the qualifications, they get the job. It happens all of the time. The Liberals are being disingenuous. Holy smokes, starting this thread with a broadside!!! They have to appeal to their base and judging by their seat totals, this kind of attitude is becoming outdated. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 I see, so all auditors general candidates are created equal....in your opinion? Are you human? No, it was a serious question I was posing to you. Do you have any idea or are you just going on a hunch? Quote
blueblood Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) Come on now, it's an Auditor General's job. At that level, what is the skill difference? Someone can operate a calculator faster? Same goes for being bilingual, there's an app for that! It also works the other way.if the candidate only spoke straight french he/she should get the job. We have interpreters and apps for that! Edited November 3, 2011 by blueblood Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Smallc Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Posted November 3, 2011 No, it was a serious question I was posing to you. Do you have any idea or are you just going on a hunch? No, it wasn't a serious question, and if you think it was, you need to try again. Quote
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 No, it wasn't a serious question, and if you think it was, you need to try again. Dear smallc, Please tell us the what possible differences in the candidates for the Auditor General of Canada's job could invalidate the requirement for bilingualism as stated in the job posting, along with all the other qualifications. Thank you, Shwa Quote
Smallc Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Posted November 3, 2011 Experience, education, record of results, management skills, etc., etc. Quote
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Same goes for being bilingual, there's an app for that!It also works the other way.if the candidate only spoke straight french he/she should get the job. We have interpreters and apps for that! Then they should have went with a unilingual French AG because they would bring more, I dunno, je ne sais quoi to the job, a little more 'joi de vivre' that could be imparted on all the angry Anglos because their isn't an app for that. Well, for the all the angry Anglos, there is ex-lax... Quote
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Experience, education, record of results, management skills, etc., etc. Really? For the candidates for the job? One assumes that once people reach the level of some serious candidacy that there would be some measure of equal abilities don't you think? Quote
Smallc Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Posted November 3, 2011 Then they should have went with a unilingual French AG If they were the most qualified. Quote
Smallc Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Posted November 3, 2011 Really? For the candidates for the job? One assumes that once people reach the level of some serious candidacy that there would be some measure of equal abilities don't you think? Right. Why hold a competition at all? They should all get the job! Quote
MiddleClassCentrist Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) This is just silliness. I agree. Speaking one language does not hinder one's ability as an accountant. French or English. Though, Conservatives would have stormed out if the AG was unilingual on the French side. Eastern opression of the west, would be the rationale. Edited November 3, 2011 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
Shwa Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Right. Why hold a competition at all? They should all get the job! So you think a final slate of candidates for a given job is a waste of time then? That is, don't screen candidates just pick your favourite? Quote
olp1fan Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 Its strategy on the liberals and ndps part...the AG has to now prove the libs and ndp wrong..that he is the right pick so he can't be partial to harper now or else the opposition will be proven right its pretty smart Quote
Smallc Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Posted November 3, 2011 So you think a final slate of candidates for a given job is a waste of time then? That is, don't screen candidates just pick your favourite? I'm not even sure what you're talking about anymore. Quote
Smallc Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Posted November 3, 2011 Though, Conservatives would have stormed out if the AG was unilingual on the French side. Maybe if they were in opposition, but not if they were in government. Quote
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